worstpilotever

The question is, will our new capts continue to give scotty a standing O in capt koolaid class, or will they turn their backs on him. almost makes me want to upgrade, I know what I would do.

Aviato

I'm looking forward to welcoming BobTheNailer. 😆

three1five

I’m not sure the proper balance between holding out for the contract of our dreams and dragging things out until the next downward swing in the economic cycle makes our current contract look decent.

Will follow GT’s lead in the meantime.

Grumble

When you have people falling all over themselves to pick up every scrap of open time at straight pay, fill LCA jobs, mgmt projects, TK, etc…. It’s no wonder SK thinks we’re perfectly happy with the status quo.

JTwift

Can we just cut/paste the Delta contract, please?

because it’s so far ahead of ours it’s not even funny.

im not even talking about the pay rates.

Case in point: I’d bet their reserve is going to go very senior with these new rules. Junior people will be FORCED to a line.

that will never happen here with our current garbage reserve.

just one example.

HSLD

It is against the APC Forum Rules for forum users to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. This applies to the advocacy of ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action.

Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions.

The rules on APC have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts to secure industry leading

Flyweight

DL guy… my encouragement to keep pushing by the rules. RLA can work if the mec and members do their part.

In some bases/fleets it has been that way on the old contract too. I joke that I have never been senior enough to hold reserve, but there is truth to it as I have always bid a line from day 1. Fine by me. 320 fleet.

Thats a huge QOL gain for me and for the senior local dudes sitting at home cultivating their payback days. With 18 hour long call it is even better.

EwrRocks

All this comm from union and company is very predictable, it’s part of the game of getting a deal. I just don’t get to emotional about any of it. Both sides have a narrative they need to get out into the world. Union needs the troops to stay engaged and rallied. The company needs to show investors that they hear them while also getting a narrative that tries to keep pilots calm. Wash, rinse, repeat till one day you have a AIP.

horrido27

Maybe, and yes..,give and take is the norm in Contract negotiations. But after what our CEO publicly stated over the past months (and years.. let’s not forget the company/union stance on getting a deal done way back in 2018>2019), this Blastmail is both telling and somewhat worrisome.

I have NEVER advocated a work action. On the contrary, I have believed in my statement that we should ALL
Fly Safe
Fly Professionally &
Fly the Contract.

A look at both the ALPA Code of Ethics and our FOM states the same. (Just worded differently)
I still find it funny that mods on here question the work to rule or other actions that are not only required to sometimes force the issue, but bring up past cases to prove their point.

I may get a ban in the near future, but so be it.
I wonder if the mods would have been as quick to ban say, 150 years ago, 100 years ago, 60 years ago.
”we shouldn’t have kids working”
- you can’t say that, it’s the rule of law-
“we should let women vote”
-you can’t say that, it’s against the law-
“we should have civil and equal rights for Black Americans”
-you can’t say that, it’s against the law-

Mods, you have enormous power. I just hope you realize that when banning & censoring posts.
There is definitely a difference between someone writing up tires that might look questionable (to delay a flight) vs someone refusing an ETOPS flight because the APU gen is inop.
Or calling in sick.. should you now be afraid if you call in when you are following both the FAA Guidance and IMSAFE?
Something that both the company and union have said we need to do- evaluate if “IMSAFE”

crazy times.
Motch

Swakid8

I don’t understand why we are up arms…. We just went back to the table with new Union leadership… Expectations of having a TA prior to April/Easter in my opinion was very let me just say too optimistic…