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Gooselives 04-07-2023 12:01 AM
Townhall Takeaways
 
Any good townhall tidbits as it relates to contract negotiations?

Sniper66 04-07-2023 06:20 AM
Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3620234)
Any good townhall tidbits as it relates to contract negotiations?


not a single pilot should listen
my opinion

WhisperJet 04-07-2023 06:43 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3620328)
not a single pilot should listen
my opinion
I agree with your sentiment but I think it's important to listen to hear what "they" are saying. Know the source and the motivation but take with a grain of salt. Bounce what you hear off your reps.

FlewNavy 04-07-2023 07:43 AM
Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3620234)
Any good townhall tidbits as it relates to contract negotiations?
"Contract is coming but we still need to be able to operate and be competitive"

What this means is that because we don't have cheap a base like the Atlanta cash machine - management expects the pilots to make the sacrifice and not be on par with our competitor with respect to contract costs.

Industry Leading*

(*in relative terms)

TFAYD 04-07-2023 09:32 AM
Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3620368)
"Contract is coming but we still need to be able to operate and be competitive"

What this means is that because we don't have cheap a base like the Atlanta cash machine - management expects the pilots to make the sacrifice and not be on par with our competitor with respect to contract costs.

Industry Leading*

(*in relative terms)
Mgmt definition of industry leading =

- match DL pay rates to the penny
- sub par management friendly work rules

F15andMD11 04-07-2023 11:35 AM
Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3620368)
…What this means is that because we don't have cheap a base like the Atlanta cash machine…)
We do! Its centrally located too. IAH. We just choose not to operate it as ATL. You can’t even fly to CDG on UA from there. First, figure out how to double the WB gates there. Baggage system modernization will soon help things too.

ugleeual 04-07-2023 11:43 AM
I heard you don’t want to eat at Panda Express in IAH terminal E… rats rats rats. That was probably the only useful info discussed at a CP directed townhall.

Whiskeyjet1 04-07-2023 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3620480)
We do! Its centrally located too. IAH. We just choose not to operate it as ATL. You can’t even fly to CDG on UA from there. First, figure out how to double the WB gates there. Baggage system modernization will soon help things too.
too far from the northeast. Sorry.

GPullR 04-07-2023 12:49 PM
Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3620368)
"Contract is coming but we still need to be able to operate and be competitive"

What this means is that because we don't have cheap a base like the Atlanta cash machine - management expects the pilots to make the sacrifice and not be on par with our competitor with respect to contract costs.

Industry Leading*



(*in relative terms)
What it really means is

Due to management incompetence, we can't make the profits like Delta so we need you to take one for the team.

Swakid8 04-07-2023 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3620480)
We do! Its centrally located too. IAH. We just choose not to operate it as ATL. You can’t even fly to CDG on UA from there. First, figure out how to double the WB gates there. Baggage system modernization will soon help things too.
IAH will never be able to match ATL pound for pound. It’s too far south for sufficient domestic connection traffic flow……


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