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Gooselives 06-17-2023 08:40 PM

Moonshot
 
MEC townhall was bad.

It is not about asking for the moon it is about being realistic.

#delayscosteachpilotmoney

Bahamasflyer 06-17-2023 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3652606)
MEC townhall was bad.

It is not about asking for the moon it is about being realistic.

#delayscosteachpilotmoney

And rushing a subpar contract leads to MUCH worse.....

Years, if not decades of bad work rules that only become harder to get back.

This is the most leverage pilots have had in decades...and it would be preposterous to let it slip away now.

LeeFXDWG 06-17-2023 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3652606)
MEC townhall was bad.

It is not about asking for the moon it is about being realistic.

#delayscosteachpilotmoney

Seek life elsewhere….

There is no better time to expect to claw back a significant amount of of QWL items along with industry leading pay rates. Those QWL items were lost/given up by a majority of the UAL pilots long ago. The JCBA focused on helping the merger we couldn’t control to achieve an SLI and complete the operational integration to then “get it back in the next contract.” This is it.

If you truly work for UAL, you work for a CEO with a 30% pay advantage over his DL adversary and also got a nice NPS bonus on your hard work……. What did you get.

Im gone in five years. I’ve fought against the missteps of the UAL MEC during the post 9/11, BK, recession of 08 etc. I’m only one pilot though. Fear is a powerful motivator as proven by the history of my career.

Put on a lanyard and get in step. This next contract has to make significant ground to close the gap in what has been lost as DALALPAs did. If you want a TUMI 2.0, SKirby will be more than happy to sign.

Compensation and QWL is way mor than a pay table in Section 3.

hummingbear 06-18-2023 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3652606)

It is not about asking for the moon it is about being realistic.

#delayscosteachpilotmoney

I, too am ready for management to stop expecting the moon from us & get realistic with their offer. Their delays are costing each pilot money. Glad we see eye to eye.

Bahamasflyer 06-18-2023 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3652718)
I, too am ready for management to stop expecting the moon from us & get realistic with their offer. Their delays are costing each pilot money. Glad we see eye to eye.

Please stay as far away as possible from any role even remotely associated w the NC.

I hope people like this are in the extreme minority. What part of being in the best negotiating environment in decades do you not understand??

ThumbsUp 06-18-2023 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 3652765)
Please stay as far away as possible from any role even remotely associated w the NC.

I hope people like this are in the extreme minority. What part of being in the best negotiating environment in decades do you not understand??


Somehow I think you missed the intent of his post.

yesto67 06-18-2023 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 3652765)
Please stay as far away as possible from any role even remotely associated w the NC.

I hope people like this are in the extreme minority. What part of being in the best negotiating environment in decades do you not understand??

Reading is Fundamental

mittenstate 06-18-2023 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer;[url=tel:3652765
3652765[/url]]Please stay as far away as possible from any role even remotely associated w the NC.

I hope people like this are in the extreme minority. What part of being in the best negotiating environment in decades do you not understand??

Read that again and you may go back and edit your post.

Andy Dufresne 06-18-2023 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 3652765)
Please stay as far away as possible from any role even remotely associated w the NC.

I hope people like this are in the extreme minority. What part of being in the best negotiating environment in decades do you not understand??

Holy lack of reading comprehension, Batman!

Sniper66 06-18-2023 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3652606)
MEC townhall was bad.

It is not about asking for the moon it is about being realistic.

#delayscosteachpilotmoney




Go away Toddler
you have been replaced
haha

Whiskeyjet1 06-22-2023 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3652606)
MEC townhall was bad.

It is not about asking for the moon it is about being realistic.

#delayscosteachpilotmoney

Thanks, obvious mgmt plant. Hope you get watered.

oldmako 06-22-2023 06:56 PM

The Toddlers did more harm to the UAL pilot group than any other MEC (with the possible exception of Whiteford) over the last 30 years. That GooseCrap keeps coming back and trying to poke holes in what's going on now just highlights his fealty to idiocy and his cluelessness. Or, his fealty to Willis. UAL pilot's hands are now tied in large part due to this insanity and feckless union leadership who tried to hoodwink you into the TUMI POS. And he wants to point fingers at the current crop.

Good luck, guys. You NEED it.

Shrek 06-22-2023 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3652620)
Seek life elsewhere….

There is no better time to expect to claw back a significant amount of of QWL items along with industry leading pay rates. Those QWL items were lost/given up by a majority of the UAL pilots long ago. The JCBA focused on helping the merger we couldn’t control to achieve an SLI and complete the operational integration to then “get it back in the next contract.” This is it.

If you truly work for UAL, you work for a CEO with a 30% pay advantage over his DL adversary and also got a nice NPS bonus on your hard work……. What did you get.

Im gone in five years. I’ve fought against the missteps of the UAL MEC during the post 9/11, BK, recession of 08 etc. I’m only one pilot though. Fear is a powerful motivator as proven by the history of my career.

Put on a lanyard and get in step. This next contract has to make significant ground to close the gap in what has been lost as DALALPAs did. If you want a TUMI 2.0, SKirby will be more than happy to sign.

Compensation and QWL is way mor than a pay table in Section 3.

THIS ^ 🍻

Thank you - and we will drag them kicking and screaming to a better contract. Now is the time !

Race Bannon 06-23-2023 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3652620)

If you truly work for UAL, you work for a CEO with a 30% pay advantage over his DL adversary and also got a nice NPS bonus bone-us on your our hard work……. What did you we get.


FIFY .......

sofarup 06-23-2023 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Race Bannon (Post 3654933)
FIFY .......

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unity

Half wing 06-23-2023 02:52 PM

WTF, so the OP wants us to just take whatever offer the company gives us? He/she must be close to retirement. Reminds me of the LCP trying to convince me that the pie is only so big. Meanwhile, we are “investing” in a crappy British soccer team, underwater exploration, electric air taxis and of course Boom. No. The slimy E-team needs to eat ****.

yesto67 06-23-2023 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 3655207)
WTF, so the OP wants us to just take whatever offer the company gives us? He/she must be close to retirement. Reminds me of the LCP trying to convince me that the pie is only so big. Meanwhile, we are “investing” in a crappy British soccer team, underwater exploration, electric air taxis and of course Boom. No. The slimy E-team needs to eat ****.

You’re not going to get everything you want, so grow up.

Andy Dufresne 06-23-2023 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by yesto67 (Post 3655276)
You’re not going to get everything you want, so grow up.

Yeah? Why not?


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