Contract discussions
 

Where can you find discussions on the negotiations? Evidently not here. There was a couple of threads yesterday, not sure where they went.

Over the weekend I am sure you will have something to post about.

Not really interested in posting, just reading everyone’s knowledge and opinions .

I’m just interested in reading the product of our negotiations and if it’s good enough for a Yes vote.

Read the room.

We’ve been discussing negotiations since 2018, and we’ve exhausted almost every avenue of theoretical debate. Wake me up whenever we have an AIP — I imagine discussions will get much livelier then.

the threads in question got disappeared a couple hours ago

Unbelievable. Pathetic.

APC sensors are back. They deleted the entire folder on Tumi with no record of any of it, now all threads with current contract discussion is purged? Incredible.

Guessing this will be my last post for awhile…

What on earth is their rational????

Does this mean the 2 week clock has been reset?

The threads were deleted, I believe, because a member was on the verge of doing harm to his career.
Good call.
Thanks.

and the careers of 16,000 pilots. Yes, good call

We will try and soldier on...

How we conduct contract decision
 

I understand you would like information or assistance regarding contract discussions. To provide you with appropriate guidance, could you please provide more details about the specific nature of the contract discussions? Are you looking for general advice on negotiating contracts, specific contract terms, or any other particular aspect? The more information you can provide, the better I can assist you with your contract discussions.

Every time someone says 2 weeks this plays in my head

Unions have gotten crippling financial penalties in the past for unauthorized self-help.

They’re putting a wide moat on posts

Absolutely nothing to do with that.

Back so soon? But still without anything of value to add?

Do you?

Other than calling out the idiocy of deleting multiple entire threads, what’s my infraction exactly?

I am trolling you only because you posted butthurt and that you’d take your ball and go home and not post. You call it idiocy because you don’t know the details of why threads were removed. I saw some of it, and think it was a good call.

Recent threads are caricatures of pilots who want to have control in these negotiations and don’t have it. All I can say is trust the process. Very clear direction has been given to the negotiating committee and it sounds like we’re getting closer. It will be a lot easier for all of us to *****, when we see a TA until that time, all I can do is echo the advice to take a chill pill

Forgive my ignorance, but my imagination lacks to understand what one could do so damning by commuting.

I’ve heard the words and phrases:
compassionate
egregious
kill their career
ruin careers of 16000 pilots
was trying to do the right thing
somehow related to contract issues, or was relevant to conversation
had to be deleted to save all involved

maybe it’s like fight club and no one can say, but I baffled how one could cause so much strife by sharing even the most dumb practices. How is compassionate ever bad? Should they get kudos for core 4 practices?

Please PM me if that makes more sense. I want to learn from others, especially what not to do. In no way I want to stumble and get another thread deleted, trouble with APC, FIGHT Club, or the Illuminati. So I guess be tactful…

My implication about posting was that I figured calling out the mods would get me put in time-out like in the past… I actually do know the details, and the details make it even more ridiculous that the two threads were taken down (one is back up at least).

And dude, I’m the one that has advocated chilling on the negotiations and letting the committee do their jobs for months now, and yes, results are finally happening.

Cheers, here’s to a hopefully ILC. 🍻

We agree on that and I’m sure a lot more. Everyone is tired of waiting and we’re all getting cranky.

IF endgame negotiations fall apart, which they could. We’ll all have to refocus on a harsh reality - that an agreement could be years away AND at some point we could be asked to strike.

if that becomes the new direction there won’t be much room for snark - especially not mine.

Cheers