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Outof410 07-21-2023 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by FrancisSawyer (Post 3670035)
If it’s true SK wants to stick it to AA, look at BOS, PHL, PHX.

PHL would be amazing.

ytumama 07-21-2023 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by buzzer (Post 3669490)
Source?


Filler

Mickey. Everybody comes to see Mickey.

KnightNight 07-21-2023 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Outof410 (Post 3670191)
PHL would be amazing.

I mean we don’t have a lot of overnights there and it’s close to EWR so I don’t think so. I can see phx

JTwift 07-21-2023 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by ytumama (Post 3670276)
Mickey. Everybody comes to see Mickey.

I mean, who DOESN’T want to come from Europe and start their Disney vacation by way of Newark?

FrancisSawyer 07-22-2023 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3670293)
I mean we don’t have a lot of overnights there and it’s close to EWR so I don’t think so. I can see phx

EWR is full. PHL is an international airport. Could pick up some international flying to relieve EWR congestion. AA flies out of LGA and JFK and PHL.

hamsandwich 07-22-2023 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by FrancisSawyer (Post 3670502)
EWR is full. PHL is an international airport. Could pick up some international flying to relieve EWR congestion. AA flies out of LGA and JFK and PHL.

you need feed for international. United doesn’t have near enough flights to feed international ops in phl.

C11DCA 07-22-2023 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by hamsandwich (Post 3670535)
you need feed for international. United doesn’t have near enough flights to feed international ops in phl.

PHL sits in the middle of EWR and IAD. So little need for us to fly international from there unless to supplement our existing Lufthansa flight.

the 321 could be a good way to add frequency in existing markets or to develop new ones, or allow seasonal markets to become year round, besides the planned replacement of the 757 ones.

CLazarus 07-22-2023 12:17 PM

BOS is by far the best bet for another, if any. 40 mainline departures scheduled tomorrow, 26 of which are on the Guppy. The rest are a mix of Bus/752 (and one 763 to LHR). CLE has 27 departures tomorrow, 100% Guppy and about 120 crews. LAS has 39 departures, 35 on the Guppy. The LAS base has actually gotten a bit smaller since the first VB it was offered (93 CAs now vs 100ish at open). I think they couldn’t grow LAS more because too many potential CAs would rather make the short commute to SFO/LAX WB than fly the crappy 737 trips they’ve built in LAS so far. And no point growing it further while NH WB FOs have been flocking in to break their seat locks. MCO 737 has grown to 150ish crews since opening. If LAS stabilizes and starts to grow above 100 crews, then I think BOS will likely happen within a couple of years because the percentage of Guppy trips into BOS will rise as the fleet grows. The percentage of Bus flying might grow a tad or remain stable as the 321LR assumes the 752 transcon role in the next few years. Because of LAS and its stunted growth so far, I don’t see PHX anytime soon. Believe it or not ATL, DFW, and SEA have around 30 departures a day across fleets, so further down the road they too might be candidates if the Guppy ‘factor’ grows high enough. God help us all.

PilotDeviation 07-22-2023 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by CLazarus (Post 3670822)
BOS is by far the best bet for another, if any. 40 mainline departures scheduled tomorrow, 26 of which are on the Guppy. The rest are a mix of Bus/752 (and one 763 to LHR). CLE has 27 departures tomorrow, 100% Guppy and about 120 crews. LAS has 39 departures, 35 on the Guppy. The LAS base has actually gotten a bit smaller since the first VB it was offered (93 CAs now vs 100ish at open). I think they couldn’t grow LAS more because too many potential CAs would rather make the short commute to SFO/LAX WB than fly the crappy 737 trips they’ve built in LAS so far. And no point growing it further while NH WB FOs have been flocking in to break their seat locks. MCO 737 has grown to 150ish crews since opening. If LAS stabilizes and starts to grow above 100 crews, then I think BOS will likely happen within a couple of years because the percentage of Guppy trips into BOS will rise as the fleet grows. The percentage of Bus flying might grow a tad or remain stable as the 321LR assumes the 752 transcon role in the next few years. Because of LAS and its stunted growth so far, I don’t see PHX anytime soon. Believe it or not ATL, DFW, and SEA have around 30 departures a day across fleets, so further down the road they too might be candidates if the Guppy ‘factor’ grows high enough. God help us all.

BOS has too much competition from DAL/JBU to be a good play… especially since United already has two Northeast-ish hubs. If United is laughably weak anywhere, it’s the Southeast where DAL dominates from ATL and AA from CLT/MIA. I’d like to think expanding TPA (rapidly becoming a financial hub)/MCO can complement IAH nicely while expanding United’s footprint in the fastest growing region of the US… and providing a convenient connecting point for trips to the Caribbean islands. As someone who lives in the southeast, flying on United to anywhere in the Caribbean or Central America on United just doesn’t make sense when I can fly on DAL/AA through a much more convenient hub

three1five 07-22-2023 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 3669456)
We don’t connect Pax in sea, and with delta in town there really isn’t a market to add back the previous, and what was a small amount anyway, of intl flying we had.

If connecting pax there has anything to do with an airport becoming a crew base, a few weeks ago we cancelled a DEN-IAH 78 and I bumped into a poor soul who had his DEN-IAH nonstop rebooked DEN-SGF-IAH.

Thus we should put SGF on the list of potential new bases.


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