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JackReacher 07-23-2023 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by OFFCOURSE (Post 3671279)
Any specific places ,cities to try to avoid on the bids? Thanks in advance for the info

Definitely avoid SAP!! If you get that on your line, call in sick!

rickair7777 07-23-2023 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3671319)
I personally avoid EWR. Until they get our operation under control there I avoid it like the plague. BOG is another just because I don’t like the hours of the all nighter.

I was there last week, UAL birds parked everywhere, for hours.

Hedley 07-24-2023 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3671488)
Definitely avoid SAP!! If you get that on your line, call in sick!

What’s so special about SAP? I haven’t been there in years and can’t remember anything about it, good or bad. Being that I never leave the hotel south of the border, the destinations all seem the same to me.

hummingbear 07-24-2023 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3671588)
What’s so special about SAP? I haven’t been there in years and can’t remember anything about it, good or bad. Being that I never leave the hotel south of the border, the destinations all seem the same to me.

Everyone has a different comfort level w/ int’l travel. It’s not my place to tell people what they should & shouldn’t be comfortable with, but “never leave the hotel south of the border” is definitely on the conservative side of air crews, in my experience; which kind of underscores Dark Side’s point that the criteria for a “good overnight” vary greatly from one pilot to the next.

There are some great LatAm destinations w/ lots to do & see- BOG, UIO, GUA, MEX, GDL to name a few. Different people will & won’t go out at some of these places, but I think SAP is one that is pretty commonly seen as a rough area w/ a sort of mid-quality hotel. (Think short SAL layover.) So if you’re someone who likes to get out on the overnights, you’re more likely to be on your own, & sitting around the hotel is generally less pleasant than it might be in LIR or PUJ, for example. But I think checking a place out for yourself before you make a decision is good advice.

Hedley 07-24-2023 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3671606)
Everyone has a different comfort level w/ int’l travel. It’s not my place to tell people what they should & shouldn’t be comfortable with, but “never leave the hotel south of the border” is definitely on the conservative side of air crews, in my experience; which kind of underscores Dark Side’s point that the criteria for a “good overnight” vary greatly from one pilot to the next.

There are some great LatAm destinations w/ lots to do & see- BOG, UIO, GUA, MEX, GDL to name a few. Different people will & won’t go out at some of these places, but I think SAP is one that is pretty commonly seen as a rough area w/ a sort of mid-quality hotel. (Think short SAL layover.) So if you’re someone who likes to get out on the overnights, you’re more likely to be on your own, & sitting around the hotel is generally less pleasant than it might be in LIR or PUJ, for example. But I think checking a place out for yourself before you make a decision is good advice.

My deal about not leaving the hotel anymore is that I just don’t care what is out there. I don’t enjoy traveling or exploring any city. As long as the hotel has a restaurant where I can get a healthy meal and an adequate fitness center, I typically don’t leave the hotel on any layover these days. Others like to explore more.


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