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hopp 11-20-2023 07:56 AM

Signing bonus question
 
I'm retired and not current on anything at the airline. I did get my share of the signing bonus for the months I worked prior to retiring.

Question; was the signing bonus subject to additional contribution to the B C fund? If so, anyone have an idea how that was handled for retirees?

PK387 11-20-2023 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by hopp (Post 3726380)
I'm retired and not current on anything at the airline. I did get my share of the signing bonus for the months I worked prior to retiring.

Question; was the signing bonus subject to additional contribution to the B C fund? If so, anyone have an idea how that was handled for retirees?

Did you retire in 2023? There's a PRAP contribution associated with 2023 earnings, but not for anything before that.

abj123 11-20-2023 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by hopp (Post 3726380)
I'm retired and not current on anything at the airline. I did get my share of the signing bonus for the months I worked prior to retiring.

Question; was the signing bonus subject to additional contribution to the B C fund? If so, anyone have an idea how that was handled for retirees?

The first check was not pensionable nor eligible for profit sharing.

The check coming on 11/30, covering 2023, will come with the additional 16% retirment contribution. The dollars paid on 11/30's check will also count for 2023's profit sharing calculation (Payable 3/1/24)

Pilot4000 11-20-2023 11:58 AM

My buddy wants to know how profit sharing is calculated. Is it 10%/20% of 2023 regular pay?

ThumbsUp 11-20-2023 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3726493)
My buddy wants to know how profit sharing is calculated. Is it 10%/20% of 2023 regular pay?

The formula for the profit sharing pool is pretty "straightforward" and is what is in the UPA. What you get is based you're fractional amount of the your earnings in relation to the entire pot of the pilot earnings pool. For example, if there was $4B in the pilot labor earnings pool, and you earned $400k, you would receive what is 0.01% of the profit sharing pool.

I put straightforward in quotes because it's not exactly clear how the pilot's group's profit sharing will blend in with the rest of the labor groups. Under the previous CBA, we all had the same basic formula for the pool, with different percentages allocated to each workgroup as negotiated by their individual CBAs. Now ours is an entirely different formula than the rest of them. I haven't seen that spelled out by ALPA.

PK387 11-20-2023 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3726493)
My buddy wants to know how profit sharing is calculated. Is it 10%/20% of 2023 regular pay?

3-H-2 For profit-sharing based on the years 2023 and beyond (paid in 2024 and beyond), the Company profit sharing plan shall be funded with ten percent (10%) of pre-tax profit up to $2.5 billion of pre-tax profit, plus twenty percent (20%) of pre-tax profit in excess of $2.5 billion of pretax profit.

Percentage to be multipled times regular earnings still TBD based on full year's profit numbers.

GPullR 11-20-2023 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3726493)
My buddy wants to know how profit sharing is calc toulated. Is it 10%/20% of 2023 regular pay?

Maybe 5-6% if everything goes well for last quarter.

tallpilot 11-20-2023 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by PK387 (Post 3726499)
3-H-2 For profit-sharing based on the years 2023 and beyond (paid in 2024 and beyond), the Company profit sharing plan shall be funded with ten percent (10%) of pre-tax profit up to $2.5 billion of pre-tax profit, plus twenty percent (20%) of pre-tax profit in excess of $2.5 billion of pretax profit.

Percentage to be multipled times regular earnings still TBD based on full year's profit numbers.

So the Big 3 all have the same profit sharing language now.

Sniper66 11-20-2023 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3726591)
Maybe 5-6% if everything goes well for last quarter.


bingo
at most 7% I say


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