Guarantee they’re assigning it to folks with an FDO on the back end.

I am sure and I still would PDR it and take it to grievance as it would be an illegal assignment in this case....

If we’re talking about late short calls on your last day, also keep in mind 20-K-6-h:

“If a Reserve is assigned a short call assignment that begins at 1400 or later on their last day of reserve, they must be explicitly notified at time of assignment that they will be completing their short call; if they are not so notified, they are not required to sit the short call assignment, and the assignment is considered to be ‘unused’.”

This right here as well.... Scheduling will not notify you correctly but will push back saying that this is an assumption that comes with the assignment. Had this happen me last year where I PDR'd it. SSC and the comapny battled all-day about it...

FDO can only be used to assign you a 2 day trip. So, last day, plus FDO. And then you’re entitled to the day extra pay, or restored day off.

For my specific situation, I had an HDO, not FDO. My SC was at noon and not after 1400. That said, idk I didn’t know about 20-K-3-c-(15) so always good to know!

Thats dumb…..

Yeah, did that to me a few weeks ago but started at 0900 until 1400. Last August is when they pull that last day SC after 1400 on me.

Yeah, originally told me to sit until 2359 on the last day, but luckily they released me just in time to catch my commute home. CS can’t stand to see a VEC guy get autoreleased on the last day 😂

VEC is awesome for making money, but otherwise, I don’t recommend it lol

Hopefully, you’ll have better luck in the future, man

Yeah, no. As a commuter, I wouldn’t bid VEC regardless for the amount of add pay that comes with it. Luckily I am a LCL for next month and my BES has ton of early show trips on Day 1 I can pick from for the add-pay if I so choose or use APU to position myself to be useless on my last day of reserve….

I didn't know this was a thing until 2 hours showed up on my pay register when I did an early LAX two-day a few weeks ago. Pretty nice that we still get it when we voluntarily pick up.

When do we typically see the add pay for unused SC show up on the pay register? I did one a week ago and nothing yet.

It’s not add pay anymore. Starting in August it’s added to your min guarantee. If you check that drop down it should be there (technically it’s a double drop down. Check the min guarantee tab and then click on the box that shows up. It’ll extend a second drop down and you’ll see it added there). Usually takes a day or two.

VECs pretty much exclusive to NB fleets in October

Will be added to your MPG. If you don’t see it, create a Help Hub ticket and they’ll add it to your pay register

I know, I am on the NB now….

VEC's were intended mainly for the NB fleet to begin with to cover early morning departures. Not many WB departures before 10 am.

Exactly right. The WB “equivalent” should be the VSC option, although the company isn’t obligated to offer those.

With a nice exception for SFO 756...

What would be the best bidding strategy for string of 12/13 days off if based in mainland? Any suggestions? Any idea?

Based in GUM? If yes then you can bid a compressed GUM schedule and be guaranteed 12/13 off in a row every month… it’s in the contract.

he said if based in mainland.

It’s also now available in some stateside categories… no guarantee it lasts forever though. See LOA 23-03.

I think you can build a string of 5 on 2 off to leave a 5-7 day off chunk at the end of one bid period and the start of another. With a little seniority, and a non profile reserve line (top 20%~) you can build this solution in a few minutes, get a legal solution to solve, and know that will be your award.

‘got it… then only option is bidding CMP (compressed line) to guarantee a 12/13 day string of days off.

Thank you. Is it easy for a junior to hold it?
i see VEC goes to pretty senior but was wondering how much desirable CMP is usually.

depends on the fleet and seat really… company currently doing a 6 month test period and only offering a handful of these to see if it will be expanded/permanent. In my fleet (primarily intl flying) we have 2/3 CMP lines per month… one slot goes very senior and the other two have gone to pilots in the 85-90 g-line. Two of these guys are commuters… not sure of the other guy.