My wife and I both want me to be able to live and work in base. Both of us understand the massive QOL boost it provides. We’re having to consider IAH and leave FL overall. MCO just isn’t happening anytime soon and I’m far more junior to you.

So it looks to me like there really shouldn’t be “two camps” regarding min max, and I’m not sure why some people say “it has nothing to do with staffing!” every time there’s a post expressing dismay at a low min.

i haven’t seen anything to dispute this: Min/max is basically the staffing level. Yes, they can massage it to meter training, but it’s the single place (other than a displacement) where they set how many pilots they need. I glanced at a couple categories that have definitely reduced numbers over the last few awards via steadily lowering min mx.

If a vacancy ends with 500 pilots on the category summary for your fleet, and the next vacancy ends with 490, they’ve shrunk the number of pilots in your category by not backfilling. Seems that’s the bottom line.

correct….dont over think it

Sounds like you could hold it just fine as an FO but money is more important…..choices.

ignoring any details about me that you aren’t privy to; one of the reasons for opening MCO was to entice Spirit, etc pilots over to UAL (so it goes). They won’t be able to hold that base for a decade, if they’re lucky. SWA or AA is the place to be for Florida if you’re a new hire.

the real reason is because United needed Captains and no one wanted the job in our current bases because our reserve rules were horrendous. So United looked where United pilots lived and opened bases. We would have had more if we didn’t sign the new contract.

but yes the enticing of Spirit and Frontier pilots was an added bonus.

lol Thx for the good laugh.

Also if someone is close to 50% seniority they were hired well before MCO was ever talked about as a possible new base.

I haven’t paid attention to either, but has the same attrition happened at the LAS base? They opened both at the same time for supposedly the same reason. All I’ve ever heard is how wildly profitable (or cost saving?) MCO is, and that LAS isn’t. Has that base shrunk too?

Also heard the two were opened as a work around to the virtual pilot bases when that conversation was going around, and that these two were a way around the push back the VPB’s caused.

yeah LAS capped out around 100 it’s down to mid 70s

im actually surprised it’s still around. The company got REALLY burned opening LAS. Everyone bid it to bust their seat lock and then bail. Once the “new base” designation expired and everyone saw the garbage flying they all bid back to SFO and LAX. No one wants it anymore.