So what made the beeping noise?
 

I’ve looked all over and I didn’t find what made the beeping noise for the United diversion. Anyone know? (Just curious!)

People believe everything they see in the movies. Who the heck would make a bomb that beeps?

Right! OMG! Talk about an abundance of caution, all the way up to an evacuation!😳 Someone packed their alarm clock!

Defibrillator (AED) low battery can make that beeping.

Totally speculative though. Not Monday morning QBing the decision!

In the history of modern aviation we have never found a bomb on an airliner after “bomb on board” has been written on a lavatory mirror yet we still have 364 seat 777s divert anyway to/from Hawaii because the cabin crew is scared.

ABC news said they inspected the whole plane and found nothing. Go figure.

Evacuation on the runway? Oh boy….

Agreed. Not a good look. But let's wait for the full report...FAs might have reported a fire, or really anything could have contributed to the evac decision...

If they only had 363 seats it would have been a different story

unregard…..

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Ha. I’m more thinking of all the hotel rooms in the Hawaiian city the flight returns to that have to be secured at great cost due to these bogus, most likely college kid pranks. People miss weddings/funerals/life events because of these pranks. We have employees who actually need profit sharing checks to make their lives work. This is stealing from them if you ask me.

Everyone knows that bombs have digital or analog count-down timers, so that would be easy to find.

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Even more interesting to me is what must the poor captive audience, aka passengers, must have been watching, hearing and thinking this whole time....

I won’t speak to the evacuation decision, but your comment regarding having never found a bomb on board in the past as a reason to disregard a current threat is more than concerning. A 9/11-type attack had never taken place before 9/11.

You’re not disregarding the threat by continuing the flight. These people have a specific kind of behavior and without mentioning specifics on a public forum, that is not it. This was mentioned in the last CQDL exactly for this reason - so we don’t get people hurt over the Hollywood-style stunts

I mean, we're really criticizing people for taking the most conservative route? If you have a f/a that is convinced there is an issue, you just gonna blow them off and keep going? And regarding the evac, might have been pax initiated. We don't have all the data.

They are “convinced” there is a bomb on board because they hear a beeping noise?

I'll take a new captain diverting because of a security concern over an old captain stowing the spoilers and brakes in the first 5 seconds and proceeding to slide off SC. Go expense your missed meal.

As someone with a tech (and demolition) background, I'd assume a beeping noise was consumer electronics run amuck. As has been pointed out, non-hollywood tactical bombs (even amateur ones) don't provide advance warnings to the intended target.

But I really wouldn't except that much technical insight from FA's, to say nothing of pax :rolleyes:

Ok….so now a beeping noise is a “security concern?”

When the FA's report a "possible bomb" onboard, is your immediate priority to going be a detailed analysis of their assessment? Or get the divert, checklists, and notifications going?

I guess if you're two hours out from Midway Island, you could do the former.

Ultimately, it's on the FA's if they Cry Wolf without reasonable (from their perspective) cause.

Yes, if a FA tells me that there is a possible bomb on board I am 100% going to ask probing questions as to why she/he thinks that.

The alarm on her fake imitation Apple Watch went off and she dosent know what it is 😂so it must be a bomb chirping .

With such key details Im sure this happened..apologies for being unfamiliar....but could you cite when the last time this happened.....and what with the 364/363 seats reference for those who don't know.

So when you’re sitting at the other side of the big brown desk, and you’re being asked why you didn’t divert after a flight attendant reported that there was possibly a bomb on board, how will you respond?

I can understand the reason for divert but to land and deploy the slides so fast that you didn’t even put the reversers back in ?

The egress is more questionable without have all the facts . I hope the investigation will actually explain to us what happened and how/why decisions were made.

Well the fact that I am here on the other side of your big brown desk proves there was no bomb!

Exactly - It’s perfectly ok to direct the flight attendant to hack their watch and spend five measured minutes looking for the source of the beep. That gives Capt/FO five minutes to consider their own next steps.

You’re not telling the FAs that you are refusing to divert - you’re simply setting a calm, objective threshold for doing so. I’d defend that course of action all day long at the big long table.

Now you have to explain why you deployed the slides which is VERY high risk and almost guaranteed to have a broken ankle or two on a plane full of passengers. I don't see anybody questioning the decision to divert.

So pilots deploy the slides? Wow, what a weird airline. Guess I'm glad I don't work there.

It’s your job to assess the situation using your available resources. A beeping noise is not ‘a possible bomb on board’. It’s a beeping noise. Guess what beeps on board an aircraft ? Air Tags. They beep in lost mode, they beep when your apple device thinks you’re being tracked by one, when they’ve lost a connection and when the battery is going to fail. I’ve had my phone tell me I’m being followed by an AirTag - it was in the baggage compartment and I was in the cockpit, at FL410. Numerous other devices beep.

I’m not questioning the decision making of the crew. Maybe they fully assessed the situation; searched the aircraft and contacted operations, who then spoke to corporate security, who then advised them to evacuate if no other method for deplaning was immediately available.

Are you saying the slides were deployed against the Captains orders? That is a new piece of detail I haven't heard. Do you have a source?

I thought the crew said over ATC that the "bomb" was put under the L2 door and that they might possibly evacuate after landing.
so the FAs found where the beeping was coming from.

You have a source that says the captain initiated the evac? It wasn't passenger or a flight attendant initiated? You have a source?

My point is no one on this thread was there, and no one got hurt. Stop second guessing the crew.

In the airline world evacs are initiated from the cockpit in case you didn't know. You can ask during your next recurrent if you don't believe me. It is part of the checklists and everybody, including the flight attendants, are trained on it. Unless I hear otherwise that is what I am going to expect what happened. The only time in the past when a passenger or FA initiated an evacuation without orders from the cockpit there was always fire or smoke involved. As far as I know there were none in this case.

In a perfect world it works that way, but this world isn't perfect.

But yes, you're right these were the worst pilots ever in the world and they should be fired. The best course of action when there is something sus going on in the cabin is to just keep trucking to your destination and ignore everything. Can't delay getting those New Balances on before you head to the Irish pub.