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11atsomto 05-19-2026 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 4037208)
Nothing to lobby for, they're already doing both. The current process allows you to get the gates for 3 months or so before the new process kicks in for the next IATA season.

I am confused, please circle correct choices.


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 4037155)
So what (happens/ happened) when BCAD (files, filed) their motion to compel assumption or rejection of the lease, and then (moves/moved) to the new utilization framework for the end of the IATA summer season?


rightside02 05-20-2026 12:11 PM

The prob is , even if we get some extra gates , just flying further more from FLL to one of our hubs doesn’t actually replace what Spirit of JetBlue do. It’s is/was a job for those airlines, passenger could fly to several cities like Cancun, Jamaica etc with out having to go to EWR / IAH / DEN

we off no flights other than to our own hubs. Either we need to grow outside of this model or let someone else have these gates. I wish I saw some actual flying from FLL / MCO / TPA to any other city of than our hubs. Every single other airline does this including Delta .

We’re doing great but we need to evolve

SoFloFlyer 05-20-2026 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by rightside02 (Post 4037559)
The prob is , even if we get some extra gates , just flying further more from FLL to one of our hubs doesn’t actually replace what Spirit of JetBlue do. It’s is/was a job for those airlines, passenger could fly to several cities like Cancun, Jamaica etc with out having to go to EWR / IAH / DEN

we off no flights other than to our own hubs. Either we need to grow outside of this model or let someone else have these gates. I wish I saw some actual flying from FLL / MCO / TPA to any other city of than our hubs. Every single other airline does this including Delta .

We’re doing great but we need to evolve

Latest rumor is possible FLL/PHX base next year.

I’ll believe it when I see it though

JackpotAir 05-21-2026 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 4037658)
Latest rumor is possible FLL/PHX base next year.

I’ll believe it when I see it though

Don’t give us hope like that!

It would be nice though…

SoFloFlyer 05-21-2026 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by JackpotAir (Post 4037702)
Don’t give us hope like that!

It would be nice though…

Haha trust me, I’m right there with you!

JayRalstonSmith 05-21-2026 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 4037271)
I am confused, please circle correct choices.

Maybe I misread your post. My point is that there is nothing for the airlines to lobby for because BCAD has already filed their motion to compel assumption or rejection of the Spirit lease, and had already planned to move to the new utilization framework for the end of the IATA summer season. This has the practical effect of whomever "wins" the gates in the near term doesn't necessarily keep them past Sep/Oct.

So for BCAD and the airlines its a game of chicken to make it painful enough for BCAD to not have revenue coming in from those gates and concessions near them and compel them to make a longer term deal. What the airlines are hoping for is that a) the creditors reject the lease and b) BCAD goes in and does a traditional bakeoff for those gates. The utilization framework they're going to though may exclude a bunch of carriers.


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