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SUPERfluf 08-02-2010 07:02 PM

Bonds is satan's labor relation's attorney. "best in breed". :rolleyes:

liveupthere 08-02-2010 07:42 PM

I've worked in CAL's flight ops. Not everyone is an idiot. I will not argue with sentiments toward a select few, however.

SoCalGuy 08-05-2010 07:20 AM

Echoing the afore mentioned setiments.....not the slightest 'in-love' with any of them either.....regardless of what Camp they matriculated from.

Looking at Jeff's purpose of being an M&A 'usher', and Glenn's sub-par UAL run with one foot out the door/ticket in hand within two yrs....I sure hope that the "new board" can find someone (or has already started to ear-tagging) 'outside' the present/or new "CXO" ranks who is well versed in leading a formidable carrier in being the "soon to be" largest airline in the world.

With all the pieces/resources coming to place (albeit, far from 'perfect' as it presently stands), it would be comforting to know that there was 'someone' in the wings ready to steer this future mega-carrier along the road of long-term success.....maybe someone with a 'proven' record?? The likes of "Gordo"??:o

Either way.....we watched two different makings of the "World's Largest Airlines" come about while walking two different paths following their mergers. First there was AA/TWA in the early 2000's.....and most recently the New DAL just last year. Which path will the New UAL follow via it's Mgt style/personel??

strfyr51 09-01-2010 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 846542)
Thank god the UAL Flt Ops guy is remaining. Hope they fire each and every one of the CAL Flt Ops management losers.

None of those decisions have been made as of yet. Probably safe to say that the SVP of Maint will remain as it's now UAL's 145 cert. and CAL doesn't have any turbine shop expertise as of yet. Rumor has it that CAL's troops have hertburn about moving to Chicago. Well, Wait until some of their manangement and QA have to move to San Francisco..

Joe Kolshak could yet remain at UAL but if CAL's 121 op cert is going to be used wouldn't it be FAR easier that their flt ops guy remain in place??

757Driver 09-01-2010 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by strfyr51 (Post 864337)
but if CAL's 121 op cert is going to be used wouldn't it be FAR easier that their flt ops guy remain in place??

I certainly hope not. We have the most anti-Pilot, Pilots in our Flight Operations department.

IAHB756 09-01-2010 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 864369)
I certainly hope not. We have the most anti-Pilot, Pilots in our Flight Operations department.



I don't think you are going to be very happy then. My guess is that CAL's VP of flight ops is going to become the new Sr. V.P. of flt ops. I've met him and I happen to like the guy. I understand your frustration though 757Driver. Hope pilot/management relations run smoother going forward.

757Driver 09-01-2010 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by IAHB756 (Post 864394)
I don't think you are going to be very happy then. My guess is that CAL's VP of flight ops is going to become the new Sr. V.P. of flt ops. I've met him and I happen to like the guy. I understand your frustration though 757Driver. Hope pilot/management relations run smoother going forward.

You met and like Fred Abbott? I'd consider you in the minority as most of the CAL Pilots do not like him, his management style or the dim bulbs he's surround himself with.

EWRflyr 09-02-2010 05:15 AM

And yesterday, Jeff announced his choices for the next level of VPs at the combined company. So now they have named the Exec VPs and the Sr. VPs. All that is remaining to name are the regular ole VPs and then the Staff VPs.

September 1, 2010

Dear Co-worker,

As we move closer to the anticipated October 1 legal closing of our merger with United, I am pleased to let you know that we have now selected substantially all other members of the combined company’s senior leadership team. We expect that the board of the new company will elect these officers as Senior Vice Presidents of the new United Airlines at the closing. The officers, their company affiliations and responsibilities at the new company follow.

· Fred Abbott, Continental; Flight Operations
· Mark Bergsrud, Continental; Marketing
· Scott Dolan, United; Airport Operations
· Greg Hart, Continental; Network Planning and Scheduling
· Dave Hilfman, Continental; Worldwide Sales
· Jim Keenan, United; Technical Operations
· Leon Kinloch, Continental; Pricing and Revenue Management.
· Gerald Laderman, Continental; Corporate Finance and Treasurer
· Alexandria Marren, United; System Operations Control and United Express
· Doug McKeen, United; Labor Relations
· Tom O’Toole, United; Loyalty Business
· Rohit Philip, United; Corporate Strategy and Business Development
· John Rainey, Continental; Financial Planning and Analysis
· Mark Schwab, United; Alliances

luv757 09-02-2010 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 864719)
And yesterday, Jeff announced his choices for the next level of VPs at the combined company. So now they have named the Exec VPs and the Sr. VPs. All that is remaining to name are the regular ole VPs and then the Staff VPs.

Part of the problem with us is there is far too much middle management that has nothing better to do than harass us and implement inefficient policies. I see that trend will carry over to the new UAL.

EWRflyr 09-02-2010 05:19 AM

What's up with the flight operations choices at the combined company??

First the UAL guy as Exec VP and now Fred "I'll make your commute easier" Abbot? These guys are both 60ish with some other CAL minions 60ish++. Would it hurt to actually pick someone born after 1955 who just might be around awhile? :rolleyes:


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