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Sept 1, 2010

CAL down to 20 departures after merger. 52% reduction
"Regionals" down to 13 departurres. 92% reduction
84% overall reduction for the hub.

I personally can't see it if it remains a hub. Hub to Hub flights would be at or near one a day:eek: and of course they would all be mainline aircraft. I see this as a way to get CLE to sweeten the pot for us.

Discuss...

OK, the original poster got some highlights but the information is a bit incomplete:

Continental Airlines document suggests huge cuts in Cleveland Hopkins flights | cleveland.com

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A preliminary analysis by Continental said that flights on its mainline jets at Hopkins could drop by more than half, from 42 average daily departures to 20, under that scenario.

Also, the analysis suggests that flights on regional partners that serve Continental -- which today account for about four out of five departures -- would plunge from a daily average of 168 to 13.

The last paragraph of the article:

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The documents presented in court Tuesday had information for not only Cleveland but also Denver, San Francisco, Newark, Houston and other hubs. All but one showed a decrease in departures.

While I believe CLE will see cuts and possibly lose hub status sometime after 2012, that may not happen. Also, the article doesn't state that just because the number of departures in each hub, save one, show a decrease, doesn't mean there will be less seats. Airlines are moving away from 50-seat jets due to their economics. Sure, the majors would like to use 70+ seat jets on the feeder side, but that doesn't mean they won't come to mainline in our negotiations at this point. The decrease in departures could mean swapping out two smaller jets for a larger jet, esp. on routes with multiple flights spaced close together.

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Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 864122)

OK, the original poster got some highlights but the information is a bit incomplete:

Continental Airlines document suggests huge cuts in Cleveland Hopkins flights | cleveland.com

The last paragraph of the article:

While I believe CLE will see cuts and possibly lose hub status sometime after 2012, that may not happen. Also, the article doesn't state that just because the number of departures in each hub, save one, show a decrease, doesn't mean there will be less seats. Airlines are moving away from 50-seat jets due to their economics. Sure, the majors would like to use 70+ seat jets on the feeder side, but that doesn't mean they won't come to mainline in our negotiations at this point. The decrease in departures could mean swapping out two smaller jets for a larger jet, esp. on routes with multiple flights spaced close together.

I would tend to try to not let optimism get in the way of reality. err cynicism. That's just me though.

So how long till RAH or WN invades Cleveland? Would UAL/CAL do anything about that?

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Originally Posted by cal73 (Post 864124)

I would tend to try to not let optimism get in the way of reality. err cynicism. That's just me though.

I completely agree with you. I have been saying that come 2013, CLE either has to grow dramatically or it will shrink dramatically.