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Boneman 02-04-2011 06:40 AM

Pass Travel Survey
 
The results of the Pass Travel Survey are now available on Flying Together site. Feel free to discuss.

757Reserve4EVR 02-04-2011 09:05 AM

About what I'd expect.
 
Some surprises, some not so surprising. The only thing that causes me any real heartburn is Q10 (and an example of how crappy the poll was) in that in order to get the date of hire seniority system, they included the word "active" to company service time. Look-out furloughees, a wiiiiiide open opportunity to get f'ed.

I understand that I will likely lose ground on the SLI, I have made my peace with that; but if the company then screws me out of my actual date of hire for pass travel, well, that might just be the last straw.

At least the supervisor priority question has a reasonably clear mandate.

Standing by for a bum scrubbing.

Cheers.

T.S.

Flytolive 02-04-2011 10:18 AM

Looks like we are throwing the retirees under the bus again.

EWRflyr 02-04-2011 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by 757Reserve4EVR (Post 941958)
Some surprises, some not so surprising. The only thing that causes me any real heartburn is Q10 (and an example of how crappy the poll was) in that in order to get the date of hire seniority system, they included the word "active" to company service time. Look-out furloughees, a wiiiiiide open opportunity to get f'ed.

I understand that I will likely lose ground on the SLI, I have made my peace with that; but if the company then screws me out of my actual date of hire for pass travel, well, that might just be the last straw.

At least the supervisor priority question has a reasonably clear mandate.

Standing by for a bum scrubbing.

Cheers.

T.S.

Welcome to the Continental way of doing things!

I've discussed this on here before and both sides can disagree with each other, but I am against a retiree being ahead of an active employee. Active employees should go first is my opinion. I am FOR retired employees being at the top of the priority bucket after active employees but before all unaccompanied eligible pass riders. That is actually a change from the way CAL does it...retirees go after eligible unaccompanied pass riders now. So it is a concession on both sides.

That being said in regards to the date of hire for travel Continental has historically adjusted the travel boarding date because of furloughs, etc. Your hire date may be something like June 2000, but if you were furloughed for exactly two years you have an adjusted travel date reflecting that. It is confusing and I AM against that. One date for everything. I can understand service credit being different for pay, longevity though.

EWRflyr 02-04-2011 10:23 AM

Look at the results of the question regarding enhanced boarding priority for the "supervisor" titled personnel:

82% against an enhanced boarding priority over other employees! I LIKE IT!

contrail67 02-04-2011 10:30 AM

are we still doing things the old way for now?...wife is wanting to head over to PVG for the weekend....2/26-3/2. When I listed her it looked normal.

757Reserve4EVR 02-04-2011 10:37 AM

Yes.
 

Originally Posted by contrail67 (Post 942021)
are we still doing things the old way for now?...wife is wanting to head over to PVG for the weekend....2/26-3/2. When I listed her it looked normal.


This was just the survey results, they will now sit down and put together the final policy.

Cheers.

757Reserve4EVR 02-04-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 942014)

I can understand service credit being different for pay, longevity though.

I can understand it, I would like to see longevity for pay go to date of hire as well, but might be able to live with it if it doesn't. I get it for purposes of the SLI and I (some might disagree) don't really have a problem with that.

My overall feeling on the issue is that if I end up on the bottom of the new list because of all the furloughs (again, made my peace with that if it happens) at least let me get paid and travel with some recognition of the time I have devoted to this friggin' mess. (which at this point is pretty much the entirety of my career). If I am going to be reduced to nothing more than a 3 year employee, I might as well go be a newhire at a better place.

Cheers,

"T.S."

SKMarz 02-04-2011 11:26 AM

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ron kent 02-04-2011 10:06 PM

Now that they know what we think they will use the George Costanza theory.


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