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cgull 03-08-2011 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 960144)
Best of luck with that cgul.

I was told that ALPA is a democracy so all we need is 51% to send the old geezers packing dont we?

threeighteen 03-08-2011 09:10 AM

Just need to furlough ALPA and find new representation.

cgull 03-08-2011 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 960191)
Just need to furlough ALPA and find new representation.

Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, if we do furlough again, it needs to be from the top this time (SAS). It is not engraved in stone that furloughs come from the bottom especially with that ALPA age 65 BS they pulled

Or how about a First Officers Union just like the Professional Engineers Unions they had back in the day. That way we may be able to keep the spineless senior types from giving away the store at the expense of the junior that leaves a profession in shambles and then using the excuse of Democracy to justify their actions?

syd111 03-08-2011 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by cgull (Post 960218)
Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, if we do furlough again, it needs to be from the top this time (SAS). It is not engraved in stone that furloughs come from the bottom especially with that ALPA age 65 BS they pulled

Or how about a First Officers Union just like the Professional Engineers Unions they had back in the day. That way we may be able to keep the spineless senior types from giving away the store at the expense of the junior that leaves a profession in shambles and then using the excuse of Democracy to justify their actions?

Not even worth responding to a puss like this.

Boomvang 03-08-2011 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by cgull (Post 960218)
It is not engraved in stone that furloughs come from the bottom especially with that ALPA age 65 BS they pulled

Maybe not stone, but it is in Section 23 of my current CBA.

cgull 03-08-2011 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 960232)
Not even worth responding to a puss like this.

oh no. more keyboard bravado.

If you are a senior bubba at ual you need to grow a pair and stand up to this company instead of rolling over at every chance the company gets and letting them stick it in your a$$. Stop being such a puzzy trying to justify your actions as democracy. What UAL ALPA did was give jobs away to other pilots not on the UAL seniority list. That is akin to being a scab or at least a Benedict Arnold if you cant accept the scab like behavior moniker.

Grow a pair of ballz for this next round of contract negotiations instead of sitting behind your keyboard and calling me a puss.

cgull 03-08-2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Boomvang (Post 960241)
Maybe not stone, but it is in Section 23 of my current CBA.

Then lets change that CBA to furlough from the top. Maybe that will be a motivator for the seniors to stand up against the company and maybe there will be a profession left for the junior folks.

But I wont hold my breath, I am not expecting a whole lot out of UAL ALPA.

syd111 03-08-2011 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by cgull (Post 960266)
oh no. more keyboard bravado.

If you are a senior bubba at ual you need to grow a pair and stand up to this company instead of rolling over at every chance the company gets and letting them stick it in your a$$. Stop being such a puzzy trying to justify your actions as democracy. What UAL ALPA did was give jobs away to other pilots not on the UAL seniority list. That is akin to being a scab or at least a Benedict Arnold if you cant accept the scab like behavior moniker.

Grow a pair of ballz for this next round of contract negotiations instead of sitting behind your keyboard and calling me a puss.

Look who has the key board bravado, I have a pair and I have stood up to the company and to alpa I doubt you have in fact my guess is you would be one of the first to crosss any line put up. Now go screw yourself.

cgull 03-08-2011 11:37 AM

"Look who has the key board bravado, I have a pair and I have stood up to the company and to alpa I doubt you have in fact my guess is you would be one of the first to crosss any line put up..."

so you have a pair? How did you vote on contract 2003 (r u an 82 percenter)? How did you vote on contract 2005? Did you scab or strike in 85 (or 83 at CAL)? Will you sell me out in the future? Will you scab in the future or will you just vote my job away to save yours.

"...Now go screw yourself."

Sorry, no can do. That job is already taken by UAL ALPA and ALPA national. They have been screwing me since 2003 and there is no more room or time left between their screw jobs.

syd111 03-08-2011 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by cgull (Post 960280)
"Look who has the key board bravado, I have a pair and I have stood up to the company and to alpa I doubt you have in fact my guess is you would be one of the first to crosss any line put up..."

so you have a pair? How did you vote on contract 2003 (r u an 82 percenter)? How did you vote on contract 2005? Did you scab or strike in 85 (or 83 at CAL)? Will you sell me out in the future? Will you scab in the future or will you just vote my job away to save yours.

"...Now go screw yourself."

Sorry, no can do. That job is already taken by UAL ALPA and ALPA national. They have been screwing me since 2003 and there is no more room or time left between their screw jobs.

Voted against 2003 2005 and 2000 for that matter. No i did not scab in 1985. I have not sold anyone out and do look out for more than myself. Now tell us a little about yourself, no never mind I think I can pretty much figure that out.


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