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APC225 04-01-2011 09:27 AM
Holding Co. and ANA Launch JV
 
Is this the same deal as the Aer Lingus JV? Outsource international jobs to foreign-nation-subsidized operations? Back door cabotage?

CHICAGO and LOS ANGELES, April 1, 2011 -- United Continental Holdings, Inc. and ANA today announced the launch of their trans-Pacific joint venture, through which United Airlines and Continental Airlines may coordinate sales and marketing with ANA and improve benefits offered to each airline's frequent flyers.


Through the joint venture, enabled by the U.S.-Japan Open Skies agreement and antitrust immunity granted by U.S. and Japanese regulators, the airlines can align schedules, fares, and terms and conditions for itineraries beginning April 1.

United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - News=

uaav8r 04-01-2011 10:03 AM
This certainly opens the door for more outsourcing. Though in the case of ANA we already code share via the Star Alliance. Essentially, ANA already does carry UA pax on their A/C and we reciprocate. Aer Lingus is different in that you have an Irish carrier flying UA pax from American soil to Spain. UA gets half the revenue and has no A/C or crew invested. I'm sure all of this is obvious to all. The question is...Could ANA fly from..say...IAH-AKL and split the revenue with UA? I'm not sure. Of course ANA would need an A/C like the 787 to do this feasibly...Uh Oh!:eek:

APC225 04-01-2011 10:08 AM
Originally Posted by uaav8r (Post 974008)
Aer Lingus is different in that you have an Irish carrier flying UA pax from American soil to Spain. UA gets half the revenue and has no A/C or crew invested.
Thanks. I see it's not the same. Seems like we're losing something in the deal though.

jsled 04-01-2011 11:36 AM
Originally Posted by uaav8r (Post 974008)
This certainly opens the door for more outsourcing. Though in the case of ANA we already code share via the Star Alliance. Essentially, ANA already does carry UA pax on their A/C and we reciprocate. Aer Lingus is different in that you have an Irish carrier flying UA pax from American soil to Spain. UA gets half the revenue and has no A/C or crew invested. I'm sure all of this is obvious to all. The question is...Could ANA fly from..say...IAH-AKL and split the revenue with UA? I'm not sure. Of course ANA would need an A/C like the 787 to do this feasibly...Uh Oh!:eek:
All true .......additionally, the Aer Lingus venture was to be a NEW AIRLINE with new hire US pilots and flt attendants flying Aer Lingus aircraft. It ended up being Aer Lingus pilots, but the F/As are IAD based US new hires. Very dangerous and absolutely MUST be stopped.


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