Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > United
UAL Capt in DEN (December-2010) >

UAL Capt in DEN (December-2010)

Notices

UAL Capt in DEN (December-2010)

Old 04-02-2011, 09:46 AM
  #21  
Back on TDY
 
Carl Spackler's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Default

Originally Posted by NightIP View Post
I recommend everyone drop this guy a line:

Doug Beaman | Facebook
He's nobody. The fight needs to start with ALPA defending this captain to the hilt. Including bringing suit against the local cops and their jurisdiction for false arrest.

Carl
Carl Spackler is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 09:52 AM
  #22  
Tuk er jerbs!
 
NightIP's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: B747 Left
Posts: 1,342
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
He's nobody. The fight needs to start with ALPA defending this captain to the hilt. Including bringing suit against the local cops and their jurisdiction for false arrest.

Carl
Good point.
NightIP is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 11:54 AM
  #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Lambourne's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B777 Capt
Posts: 844
Default

You mean the kind of shoot first and ask questions later method you've just used by believing the character of a man you've never met from second hand stories?
Did I say I have never met him? I have talked to many that have flown with him. This is a pretty close knit community and the oddballs are usually well known. I will say that his name has been mentioned more than once for being a 1,1 on the chart.

If you are so blinded to think that we have an infallible group of pilots then you are not reading the news or observing the other guys you work with. The industry is full of pilots that should not be behind the yoke of a jet. In this instance I think Rood's personality and entitlement attitude collided with a CSR that also probably has attitude and ego issues. The perfect storm of idiots brewing in a jetway. If Mr. Rood is so innocent then why was the agent not charged by the police and ONLY the Pilot?


My bet here is that you're not a real pilot,
Then can you explain to my family where I have been for 18 days this month? If you want to throw some money on that bet I am all game. How about $1K that you are wrong? Care to put your money where your ignorance is?

[/QUOTE]
Lambourne is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 12:20 PM
  #24  
Keep Calm Chive ON
Thread Starter
 
SoCalGuy's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Boeing's Plastic Jet Button Pusher - 787
Posts: 2,086
Default

First and foremost, my intent in posting the opening narrative was not to "stir the hive" against the mentioned CSR. Regardless of the CSR, and Police Officer's "reported" actions, the point is the "Captain's Authority" appears to be completely disregarded in the case mentioned above. As I mentioned earlier, I was just hoping that ALL ALPA pilots would/will rally in support of this Captain. By what he did, via the reported narrative, was nothing more than wanting to take care of a fellow pilot who was wanting the professional curious of an off-line jumpseat.

There has been 'word' that this particular Captain was (or is) pushing for an Independent Union outside of ALPA in which to represent the UAL Pilot Group. If those facts are indeed true, that should have NO bearing on what degree ALPA 'goes to bat' for this Captain in protecting all of his legal rights.....especially such a pilot who is reported to be "in good standing" with his current Union, ALPA.

If this Captain is indeed "thinking outside the box" in trying to explore other options regarding representation for his pilot group, it should not be considered criminal or unique in today's industry. One needs to look no further than Delta Airlines. There are 'some' within DAL that are already supporting an active push to explore/launch independent representation with the "DPA" http://www.delta-pilots.org/ Thus this topic is not "foreign", or ground-breaking by any means.

As this industry has evolved over the last 10+ years, the lines by which ALPA has represented 'common' mainline v regional carrier's has become more and more, "less defined". If holding the line on topics such as SCOPE/JV mainline flying is something that independent representation will foster/bring to a Pilot Group such as UAL, then I'll be the first to be open minded in exploring other/independant avenues in future Union representation.

If nothing less, let's all keep in mind that we NEED to support this Captain. If we, the pilots don't take care of each other, it's already been proven that no one will.
SoCalGuy is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 12:33 PM
  #25  
New Hire
 
b690's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: B75/76
Posts: 6
Default

Originally Posted by EWR73FO View Post
Where do we send money for a defense fund?
Shouldn't his union defend him? Doesn't he pay dues?
b690 is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 01:11 PM
  #26  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: 737NG Captain
Posts: 34
Default

Originally Posted by b690 View Post
Shouldn't his union defend him? Doesn't he pay dues?
You mean ALPA? HahHHaaaahaaahhaaa
globochem is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 02:02 PM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Lambourne's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B777 Capt
Posts: 844
Default

Originally Posted by b690 View Post
Shouldn't his union defend him? Doesn't he pay dues?
That is what fills this story with irony. He forms UPA to oust ALPA and yet ALPA brings him in as grievance cmmte member after UPA dies. He throws a temper tantrum, is arrested and sent to jail. It isn't ALPA that bails him out out of the pokie. It is then DEN chief pilot. He could easily have left him there for ALPA to ride in on the unicorn and rescue him.

Appears he is getting paid what he bids to sit home each month while this plays out. So where is the hardship?

Reminds me of the Capt Smith that stopped in MIA to put the FA off. Have known him for years and he is certifiable. He got paid the entire time he was off and came back. Word on the street in FRA last week was that he has gotten himself into trouble again.

L
Lambourne is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 02:34 PM
  #28  
New Hire
 
b690's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: B75/76
Posts: 6
Default

Lambourne, your comments about the captain's personality are COMPLETELY irrelevant.
Period.
b690 is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 03:16 PM
  #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,071
Default

Originally Posted by Lambourne View Post
That is what fills this story with irony. He forms UPA to oust ALPA and yet ALPA brings him in as grievance cmmte member after UPA dies. He throws a temper tantrum, is arrested and sent to jail.
L
So you were there on the jetway when it happened? You speak as if you were standing right beside him. Open your eyes Lambourne and leave the politics and personality out of the equation.
SpecialTracking is offline  
Old 04-02-2011, 03:25 PM
  #30  
Line Holder
 
jaykris's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 767 Capt
Posts: 81
Default

Actually thats quite simple. The agent made a charge. Let your wife call and tell the police you "hit" her.....your ****will be in jail in a new york minute! You dont have to prove it, only claim it. What I am suprised is, no cameras in the jetway??

J

Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 01-16-2012 at 04:31 PM. Reason: TOS
jaykris is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
CE750
Hangar Talk
63
08-02-2021 02:09 AM
WatchThis!
Hangar Talk
1
05-30-2007 03:27 PM
RockBottom
Major
3
01-03-2007 03:46 PM
LAfrequentflyer
Hangar Talk
2
02-01-2006 05:39 AM
HSLD
Major
14
01-30-2006 01:08 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices