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krudawg 01-07-2012 03:06 PM

UAL/CAL Merger - Lets get back on Track
 
Ok, We are all getting wrapped around an axle over this profit sharing stuff. Both pilot groups are getting profit sharing now, so lets drop all this animosity between groups. Sooner or later we will be sharing duties in the cockpit so I want to extend the olive branch to my CAL brothers and sisters and asked that we transition from all this poisonous talk into discussions that will put the fear of god into the UCHC management, especially co-worker Jeff. Let's give those guys something to really fear about - a STRONG UNITED FRONT. How bout tossing a couple of "grenades" in their direction and see how they dance.

SFOFO Pilot

CALFO 01-07-2012 03:21 PM

Agreed. +1

GreenArc 01-07-2012 04:13 PM

Not feelin' it. -1

chuckyt1 01-07-2012 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1113749)
- a STRONG UNITED FRONT.

SFOFO Pilot

Feelin' it... +1

Ottopilot 01-07-2012 05:19 PM

+1

If I want gossip and drama, there is plenty of crap on TV to watch.

Focus on the goal, not the gossip.

throttleweenie 01-07-2012 08:16 PM

I got nuthin' against any pilot group except scabs. But realistically, flying together in the same cockpit is a myth. Smisek, et al see USAirways as a pilot contract utopia. They don't want or need a JCBA or ISL.

Just another 2¢

TW

chuckyt1 01-07-2012 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by throttleweenie (Post 1113914)
They don't want or need a JCBA or ISL.

Just another 2¢

TW

Wouldn't it be fun if we were to change their thought process? It could happen. Although, I doubt that it will.

Coach67 01-08-2012 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1113749)
Ok, We are all getting wrapped around an axle over this profit sharing stuff. Both pilot groups are getting profit sharing now, so lets drop all this animosity between groups. Sooner or later we will be sharing duties in the cockpit so I want to extend the olive branch to my CAL brothers and sisters and asked that we transition from all this poisonous talk into discussions that will put the fear of god into the UCHC management, especially co-worker Jeff. Let's give those guys something to really fear about - a STRONG UNITED FRONT. How bout tossing a couple of "grenades" in their direction and see how they dance.

SFOFO Pilot

Good Post Krudawg! Although I think, if UCH makes a profit in 2012 we will be back in the same boat. The CO pilots will start this all over again because the CAL Pilot contract still doesn't have a non-expiring PS in it. They will want it again. Personally I hope they get it again ONLY if the Valentines Day massacre still occurs and it helps us ALL get a JCBA. Somehow I don't think the CO pilots ire will be up enough after the band aid.

Maybe though when the UCH management opens a IAH 320 base and the CO pilots can't bid it and they see their 737 flying decrease ... one can hope that they will then be angry enough. UCH will certainly open an ORD 737 and DEN 737 base. That will make some of them happy and raise the Blood Pressure at UA.

ALL UAL pilots are happy that the CO pilots got the money instead of Smisek or shareholders. The UA pilots were just hoping that the CO pilots would get p*$$&% about something and start to fight.

Coach67 02-22-2012 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Coach67 (Post 1113967)
Good Post Krudawg! Although I think, if UCH makes a profit in 2012 we will be back in the same boat. The CO pilots will start this all over again because the CAL Pilot contract still doesn't have a non-expiring PS in it. They will want it again. Personally I hope they get it again ONLY if the Valentines Day massacre still occurs and it helps us ALL get a JCBA. Somehow I don't think the CO pilots ire will be up enough after the band aid.

Maybe though when the UCH management opens a IAH 320 base and the CO pilots can't bid it and they see their 737 flying decrease ... one can hope that they will then be angry enough. UCH will certainly open an ORD 737 and DEN 737 base. That will make some of them happy and raise the Blood Pressure at UA.

ALL UAL pilots are happy that the CO pilots got the money instead of Smisek or shareholders. The UA pilots were just hoping that the CO pilots would get p*$$&% about something and start to fight.

Well I guess that didn't happen. Management's ploy worked ... pay'em off with the pennies bandaid and further delay the JCBA. Disappointing to say the least!

intrepidcv11 02-22-2012 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Coach67 (Post 1139503)
Well I guess that didn't happen. Management's ploy worked ... pay'em off with the pennies bandaid and further delay the JCBA. Disappointing to say the least!

Sure helps to be under the gun of an injunction that we had nothing to do with. There's one thing the UAL pilots brought to the merger we can all appreciate! :rolleyes:


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