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davessn763 02-28-2012 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 1142411)
Here's what bothers me most about the details:

UCHM was/are going to open 756 bases in IAH and DEN where there are already 756 pilots of the other group! The only win here are for those local CAL who are commuting (DEN). The rest is just pure disregard for the people of the airline.

Let's get a JCBA and fix this.

We just gave the company the "synergies" they want for nothing in return.

Coach67 02-28-2012 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by davessn763 (Post 1142421)
We just gave the company the "synergies" they want for nothing in return.

UFB ... you are dead right! Not only that, those guys just reduced the Company' expenses by bypassing paid moves for Bumps and surplusses.

ewrbasedpilot 02-28-2012 06:18 AM

I would SERIOUSLY like to know who the hell is negotiating ALL our lives away? It's high time ALL the unions legal departments were given their walking papers. Looks like they work for management anyway. What a joke.

Blockoutblockin 02-28-2012 06:25 AM

So where is this "mother of all bids" that the company was allegedly chomping at the bit to publish - only being delayed by the ratification of the TPA?

Monkeyfly 02-28-2012 06:27 AM

This is to that as...
 
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Monkeyfly 02-28-2012 06:31 AM

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EWRflyr 02-28-2012 06:35 AM


5. TPA Section 4-D is modified to provide that S-CO may operate an LAX B-737 Base without restriction, provided that the number of Pilots assigned to the S-UA LAX Domicile may only decrease as a result of attrition at the Domicile.

Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1142202)
I'm thinking item No. 5 is going to be a biggy.


Time will tell. From what I understand, the CLE base has still been doing the Hilo stuff and IAH and CLE guys have been doing that GDL and BJX Mexico stuff. Results in unproductive trips because LAX pilots are restricted from doing this. If all it does is consolidate those flights to LAX I'm not sure it will be that bad. HOWEVER, something tells me that opens up a whole lot of other routes the company would like to do with those pilots (I believe KOA has a scheduled 737 somewhere in the coming months?).

Blockoutblockin 02-28-2012 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1142465)
Time will tell. From what I understand, the CLE base has still been doing the Hilo stuff and IAH and CLE guys have been doing that GDL and BJX Mexico stuff. Results in unproductive trips because LAX pilots are restricted from doing this. If all it does is consolidate those flights to LAX I'm not sure it will be that bad. HOWEVER, something tells me that opens up a whole lot of other routes the company would like to do with those pilots (I believe KOA has a scheduled 737 somewhere in the coming months?).

Actually, as a Newark based Ca I was the poster child for the SFO - GDL runs and find my way out to the islands at least once a quarter. I think they are just way too short on staffing and I can't imagine how they are going to staff this bid without raping the reserves more than they all ready are.

davessn763 02-28-2012 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin (Post 1142475)
Actually, as a Newark based Ca I was the poster child for the SFO - GDL runs and find my way out to the islands at least once a quarter. I think they are just way too short on staffing and I can't imagine how they are going to staff this bid without raping the reserves more than they all ready are.

IAH 737 FO lines were 12 days off up to about 50% for March. Can't get much worse than this for productivity.

UASnake 02-28-2012 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1142465)
Time will tell. From what I understand, the CLE base has still been doing the Hilo stuff and IAH and CLE guys have been doing that GDL and BJX Mexico stuff. Results in unproductive trips because LAX pilots are restricted from doing this. If all it does is consolidate those flights to LAX I'm not sure it will be that bad. HOWEVER, something tells me that opens up a whole lot of other routes the company would like to do with those pilots (I believe KOA has a scheduled 737 somewhere in the coming months?).

Rumor has it that the 737 will replace the 756 on all of the west coast-Hawaii city pairs. TPA 5 makes it easier, if that's the real plan. As an LAX 756 F/O bumped from 737 Cap when the fleet was parked, seeing this happen while unable to bid LAX 737 Cap is very aggravating.

It's past time to motivate management to get the JCBA done.


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