New TPA
#1
New TPA
February 16, 2012
Dear United Pilots:
Yesterday, we achieved an Agreement in Principle with management for the extension of the Transition and Process Agreement. Recall that after December 31, the company had the ability per our current contract to close domiciles, furlough pilots and reduce our block hours in relation to Continental. The Continental pilots already have furlough protection and block hour protections in their current contract. The Agreement in Principle is being converted into final language for consideration as a Tentative Agreement (TA) by the two MECs. The United MEC will consider the Agreement at an upcoming Special Meeting to be announced. The details of the TA are being withheld until the MEC has had a chance to consider it for acceptance.
If both the Continental and United MECs ratify the Agreement, then we can return our complete focus on the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA). While the TPA is a necessary bridge from the separate operations of two airlines to a Complete Operational Merger of one airline under one contract, the JCBA remains the final solution. A JCBA will return our pilots to their rightful position as the leaders of the airline profession and resolve many of the issues and inefficiencies that impact our company.
It took over 46 days to reach an AIP on the TPA extension. Next month, we will have been negotiating work rules for one year. This listless pace of negotiations cannot remain the norm. We are waiting to see if the lessons of this recently concluded agreement can build momentum in JCBA negotiations.
We are United,
Chairman, United Master Executive Council
Dear United Pilots:
Yesterday, we achieved an Agreement in Principle with management for the extension of the Transition and Process Agreement. Recall that after December 31, the company had the ability per our current contract to close domiciles, furlough pilots and reduce our block hours in relation to Continental. The Continental pilots already have furlough protection and block hour protections in their current contract. The Agreement in Principle is being converted into final language for consideration as a Tentative Agreement (TA) by the two MECs. The United MEC will consider the Agreement at an upcoming Special Meeting to be announced. The details of the TA are being withheld until the MEC has had a chance to consider it for acceptance.
If both the Continental and United MECs ratify the Agreement, then we can return our complete focus on the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA). While the TPA is a necessary bridge from the separate operations of two airlines to a Complete Operational Merger of one airline under one contract, the JCBA remains the final solution. A JCBA will return our pilots to their rightful position as the leaders of the airline profession and resolve many of the issues and inefficiencies that impact our company.
It took over 46 days to reach an AIP on the TPA extension. Next month, we will have been negotiating work rules for one year. This listless pace of negotiations cannot remain the norm. We are waiting to see if the lessons of this recently concluded agreement can build momentum in JCBA negotiations.
We are United,
Chairman, United Master Executive Council
#3
And CAL's blastmail
TPA
Late yesterday we were successful in reaching an agreement in principle on an extension to the Transition and Process Agreement (TPA). We are currently converting the terms into proper LOA language so that the agreement can be formally considered by both the CAL and UAL MECs in the coming weeks. While the agreement still requires approval by both MECs to become effective, I am pleased that we were able to formulate solutions that provide benefit to both pilot groups and incentive to expeditious resolution of a JCBA.
In general, the agreement extends the terminable provisions until March 31, 2013 and modifies the base and domicile provisions to allow for bases in IAH (UAL); and SFO, DEN and ORD (CAL). These bases will be staffed on a voluntary basis or through existing special assignment provisions.
I am also pleased to report that the Company will provide additional reimbursement for ALPA merger related expenses in the amount of $3 million. As before, the amount agreed upon will be divided equally between the CAL and UAL MECs, on a 50-50 basis. As a result, and pending MEC approval, I anticipate delaying implementation of the merger assessment (initially announced for March) for approximately six months. If the assessment is needed at a later date, we will provide details at that time.
I will be holding a conference call with the MEC later this evening to discuss the agreement in principle, as well as the anticipated timeline for completion and consideration of the LOA. We will provide more information when it is prudent to do so.
CAL MEC Chairman
Late yesterday we were successful in reaching an agreement in principle on an extension to the Transition and Process Agreement (TPA). We are currently converting the terms into proper LOA language so that the agreement can be formally considered by both the CAL and UAL MECs in the coming weeks. While the agreement still requires approval by both MECs to become effective, I am pleased that we were able to formulate solutions that provide benefit to both pilot groups and incentive to expeditious resolution of a JCBA.
In general, the agreement extends the terminable provisions until March 31, 2013 and modifies the base and domicile provisions to allow for bases in IAH (UAL); and SFO, DEN and ORD (CAL). These bases will be staffed on a voluntary basis or through existing special assignment provisions.
I am also pleased to report that the Company will provide additional reimbursement for ALPA merger related expenses in the amount of $3 million. As before, the amount agreed upon will be divided equally between the CAL and UAL MECs, on a 50-50 basis. As a result, and pending MEC approval, I anticipate delaying implementation of the merger assessment (initially announced for March) for approximately six months. If the assessment is needed at a later date, we will provide details at that time.
I will be holding a conference call with the MEC later this evening to discuss the agreement in principle, as well as the anticipated timeline for completion and consideration of the LOA. We will provide more information when it is prudent to do so.
CAL MEC Chairman
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Shouldn't the rank and file members get to see the document BEFORE the MEC votes on it... Or is it like Obamacare, they have to approve it before we get to know what's in it. And they wonder why so many have problems with ALPA leadership.
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UAL MEC Chair: "The details of the TA are being withheld until the MEC has had a chance to consider it for acceptance."
CAL MEC Chair: "In general, the agreement extends the terminable provisions until March 31, 2013 and modifies the base and domicile provisions to allow for bases in IAH (UAL); and SFO, DEN and ORD (CAL). These bases will be staffed on a voluntary basis or through existing special assignment provisions.
I am also pleased to report that the Company will provide additional reimbursement for ALPA merger related expenses in the amount of $3 million....I will be holding a conference call with the MEC later this evening to discuss the agreement in principle..."
Amazing the differences between the two MEC Chairs reports here.One saved the details UNTIL HE INFORMED HIS MEC while the other chose to give details publicly before he called his MEC.
So if the second were a "friend" I can assure you I would never tell him anything confidential; no way no how!
CAL MEC Chair: "In general, the agreement extends the terminable provisions until March 31, 2013 and modifies the base and domicile provisions to allow for bases in IAH (UAL); and SFO, DEN and ORD (CAL). These bases will be staffed on a voluntary basis or through existing special assignment provisions.
I am also pleased to report that the Company will provide additional reimbursement for ALPA merger related expenses in the amount of $3 million....I will be holding a conference call with the MEC later this evening to discuss the agreement in principle..."
Amazing the differences between the two MEC Chairs reports here.One saved the details UNTIL HE INFORMED HIS MEC while the other chose to give details publicly before he called his MEC.
So if the second were a "friend" I can assure you I would never tell him anything confidential; no way no how!
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Also note these differences, maybe just semantics, but differences all the same.
UAL MEC Chair: "...consider it for acceptance"
CAL MEC Chair: "discuss...the anticipated timeline for completion and consideration ..."
UAL MEC Chair: "We are United,
Chairman, United Master Executive Council "
CAL MEC Chair: nothing posted by poster so who knows how his signature went but maybe this is it "CAL MEC Chairman"
See what you want but words reveal much so you all make your own conclusions.
UAL MEC Chair: "...consider it for acceptance"
CAL MEC Chair: "discuss...the anticipated timeline for completion and consideration ..."
UAL MEC Chair: "We are United,
Chairman, United Master Executive Council "
CAL MEC Chair: nothing posted by poster so who knows how his signature went but maybe this is it "CAL MEC Chairman"
See what you want but words reveal much so you all make your own conclusions.
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UAL MEC Chair: "The details of the TA are being withheld until the MEC has had a chance to consider it for acceptance."
CAL MEC Chair: "In general, the agreement extends the terminable provisions until March 31, 2013 and modifies the base and domicile provisions to allow for bases in IAH (UAL); and SFO, DEN and ORD (CAL). These bases will be staffed on a voluntary basis or through existing special assignment provisions.
I am also pleased to report that the Company will provide additional reimbursement for ALPA merger related expenses in the amount of $3 million....I will be holding a conference call with the MEC later this evening to discuss the agreement in principle..."
Amazing the differences between the two MEC Chairs reports here.One saved the details UNTIL HE INFORMED HIS MEC while the other chose to give details publicly before he called his MEC.
So if the second were a "friend" I can assure you I would never tell him anything confidential; no way no how!
CAL MEC Chair: "In general, the agreement extends the terminable provisions until March 31, 2013 and modifies the base and domicile provisions to allow for bases in IAH (UAL); and SFO, DEN and ORD (CAL). These bases will be staffed on a voluntary basis or through existing special assignment provisions.
I am also pleased to report that the Company will provide additional reimbursement for ALPA merger related expenses in the amount of $3 million....I will be holding a conference call with the MEC later this evening to discuss the agreement in principle..."
Amazing the differences between the two MEC Chairs reports here.One saved the details UNTIL HE INFORMED HIS MEC while the other chose to give details publicly before he called his MEC.
So if the second were a "friend" I can assure you I would never tell him anything confidential; no way no how!
Who says it's confidential information? If there is an agreement between the two MEC Chairs to keep it confidential until informing the respective MEC's, then I get your point. If not, how each MEC choses to disseminate the information is it's own business.
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