Vjm #6
 

"If you are a B737 Captain or First Officer in IAH, EWR, CLE, LAX or GUM that does a straight pickup after the issuance of this bulletin of a full trip pairing from open time that originates on March 27, 2012 through April 2, 2012, that pickup will be treated as a “voluntary junior manning” (VJM) event and you will be paid a minimum of 4:30/day orflight time flown, whichever is greater, at 150% of your normal hourly rate."

So far, March 9th through April 2nd, continuous.

Why don't they just get it over with......Stamp it as a "standing order" through Labor Day Weekend.

Stating the obvious....A "well" staffed Airline at the CAL.:rolleyes:

When the summer meltdown happens and the company blames it on a sickout, the union should bring out this paper trail of pilot bulletins as proof that they did, with foreknowledge and specific intent, understaff the airline.

After the CAL-ALPA response (lack of) from last summers "accused" sick-out, we'll see.

Not holding my breath, but your points are spot on.

Wow. I'm on the wrong airplane. I could be lining my pockets right now.

I hope that was pure sarcasm or TIC.

CAL 737 CAPT $150/hr
UAL A320 CAPT $138/hr

SWA 737 F/O $151/hr

We are getting ***** every day this contract goes on and people are helping out??

You need to read my older posts. :p

Agreed w contract...FWIW CAL NG Capt is $170 an hour. 150 is classics (26 total) and 700. Point well taken, and we keep doing it to ourselves...

Nothing but short term greed - they just don't get it.

Ahh. Funny, $170 is what I made as a 4th year F/O in 2000. Well, $169 to be exact. You see, in 2000 our 1994 ESOP contract was up and we were ticked. Guys that did jrm got their schedules posted on the wall of shame and got nastygrams in their v-file. Check airmen refused to do OE for new hires, resulting in massive training logjams. We got our contract in late 2000. $300+ per hour for the w/b's. $200+ for the n/b's. And contrary to popular belief, not one 70 seat RJ was given for those rates. Not one. In fact, the scope clause of 2000 was better than Cal's current clause because not only was it 50 seats max, it was also tied to the # of mainline aircraft.

Whoring this summer should not be tolerated. There will be plenty of time for that after we force a contract. It's up to you guys at CAL, as we are still pretty FAT here at UAL - but we will do what we can. And now, back to my half month of sick leave. I....want to soak up the sun.....

Sled

It's amazing to me how flying over 90 hours a month has become the norm at L-CAL. I have pilots coming up to me all the time almost bragging about it. Had someone just tell me he's billing the company 103 hours for March. He's a 737 fo. This is the culture Fred A. wants. Look at L-Cal FA. Some working over 150 hours per month.

I hope SOMEBODY has a plan for when the retirements kick in...:confused:

ummm yeah -- they are parking the old ass planes-- book that!

enjoy the sun , brother :). For me, it's time to enjoy the end of ski season

I almost have 64 hours this month. I'm a line holder. ;)

Don't get it over with...I want to see it hit the Baker's Dozen. :D

Seriously though, I do want to see them get it over with: get us a contract with work rules and staffing rules that will make these "opportunities" unnecessary!

Actually, Jay did send a letter to those accusing us of a sickout and calling them out on their claim that we (the CAL pilots) are under the same injunction as the UAL pilots and that we were in fact doing a sickout. The union demanded that the company provide proof of their claim of a sickout for those 28 cancellations last summer, other than pronouncements to the press. On future MEC conference calls he stated that no proof was ever provided. Didn't exactly get a public apology from the company or anything.

But , difference between "sickout" and VOLUNTARY junior manning is the word VOLUNTARY . Just say no to jm.

When I was a senior FO I never picked up open time. Flew my 80 hours and went home. Otto, sounds like you are doing the same? I've just done my 3rd fatigue call in the last 4 months, because of the schedules us junior peeps are getting. I also have a few sick calls in there. My motto is if it's unsafe I don't do it. I Filled out FSAP on everyone.

Not making any excuses for this FO, but thats not the norm unless you are super senior and fly IRO trips etc...reason is the way they build 737 lines and coverage. Most of us are already maxed out, thanks to PBS.. I do know reserve guys because of DHs all over to cover trips that hit the century mark. I'm 60 percent and have never come close to 100 hours credit in a month...nor do I want too.

Slammer we're are not in disagrement. This pilot is senior. The problem is L-CAL has senior pilots walking around wondering why many of the junior pilots are fed up. In IAH I fly with mainly junior FO's, and almost everyone of them are maxed out by PBS just like I am. The level of frustration with PBS, and lack of work rules in IAH is beyond the boiling point with most pilots I fly with (exceptions of course). I won't even get into reserve, it's a mess at L-CAL. L-CAL is hiring, but it's a day late and a dollor short. CP office keeps saying it's going to get better. I'm still waiting......

CP is lying! It will get better when we get a JCBA.

Hold on there just a minute. It's going to get better sooner than that! After all the company is hiring 24 a month during the summer to...wait, what? Sorry, they are hiring 4 a month during the summer to alleviate our staffing problems. Never mind. Carry on with what you were saying.