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gettinbumped 04-28-2012 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by 47dog (Post 1177485)
Welcome to America !

Pay him 50 million. I don't care!!!!
Our MECs need to get together, that's where OUR PROBLEM is.

Get unified, get a contract, live life.

If you want CEO pay, then go be one.

You just posted Glenn Tilton's tag line quote word for word. When we were told to take massive pay cuts, Glenn told us we needed to take the biggest cuts because we were the leaders of the airline and needed to show by example. Then he gave himself a raise. It's astonishing to me that someone who claims to be a unionist would defend this type of behavior.

47dog 04-28-2012 10:07 AM

My wife and I have done very well. Know why??? WE made it happen. You want to be successful, then make it happen.

I'm tired of everybody waiting for somebody else to take care of them.

YOU are responsible for YOU

intrepidcv11 04-28-2012 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 1177560)
Thank you for posting that!

It seems to me that many airline unions would rather live in a socialist society.I could post what pilots make on a flight attendants forum, and they would have the same response. OMG, some of these guys make 200K+ a year, that's insane, we deserve more... If you want pilot pay, then go be one. That is what you do in a capitalist society.

If you want CEO pay, then go be one.

Why don't you. Then you can get PS First travel like your boy Frank. Then you can laugh at all the unfortunate retirees victimized by the new pass travel program. Btw VJM flag is up. Get to work!

47dog 04-28-2012 07:51 PM

And my disclaimer before the flames hit: five, yes five furloughs (2 from UAL), six jobs in ten years, no family money, no trust fund, just hard work, setting goals and creating, modifying and making the plan happen.
UAL will not take care of you, the Government will not take care of you.
You create your future.
Are you better off now than ten years ago. If not, look in the mirror!
Good on JLo for negotiating a good contract for himself. Now it's OUR turn. If we could just get our "leaders" out of the playground and doing their job!

MXDUDE 04-28-2012 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 1177560)
Thank you for posting that!

It seems to me that many airline unions would rather live in a socialist society.I could post what pilots make on a flight attendants forum, and they would have the same response. OMG, some of these guys make 200K+ a year, that's insane, we deserve more... If you want pilot pay, then go be one. That is what you do in a capitalist society.

If you want CEO pay, then go be one.

You are an idiot....

MXDUDE 04-28-2012 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1177566)
Does FOX News ever get turned off at your house? The scary part is that you haven't even figured out which side of the war you are on. Look at executive compensation over the last decade vs. average worker pay. The excessive greed is killing our society. See 2008 if you need examples. The problem is that the ultra rich keep writing each other bigger checks. Not because they have earned it, but because they can. There is no check and balance system. And you keep defending them.

Right on!!!!!

MXDUDE 04-28-2012 11:49 PM

I'm a captain at l-cal 14 years. A flight attendent at 14 years longevity can make .5 to .7 of what I make. What makes Jeff et.al worth so much more then our pilot's or FA? I don't make 70 plus times our FA salary . So tell me why ceo's should make 70 times more than captain pay. I have a four year degree, 6 type ratings, and 16000 hours of flight time like a lot of our pilots do. What's that worth?

47dog 04-29-2012 05:18 AM

I have just under 20,000 hours, nine type ratings and I'm a "new hire" at CAL, or so I've been told.

Life ain't fair dude.

Speedtape 04-29-2012 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by 47dog (Post 1177930)
And my disclaimer before the flames hit: five, yes five furloughs (2 from UAL), six jobs in ten years, no family money, no trust fund, just hard work, setting goals and creating, modifying and making the plan happen.
UAL will not take care of you, the Government will not take care of you.
You create your future.
Are you better off now than ten years ago. If not, look in the mirror!
Good on JLo for negotiating a good contract for himself. Now it's OUR turn. If we could just get our "leaders" out of the playground and doing their job!

Nobody makes it on their own, NOBODY. You "create your own future" in a society that all of us collectively contribute to, to give you those future opportunities.

We have the pay, benefits, etc because of collective bargaining, not individual bargaining. The whole "blame yourself" argument is pure bull$it.

MXDUDE 04-29-2012 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by 47dog (Post 1178047)
I have just under 20,000 hours, nine type ratings and I'm a "new hire" at CAL, or so I've been told.

Life ain't fair dude.

Yes, you are right. Life is not fair. I've been more lucky than good throughout my career, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to fight for what I think is fair. Why don't we get rid of the union and every pilot negotiate their own contract and seniority number. Lets see how well that goes. Unions were created because of the unjust treatment and lack of fairness for the worker. Socialism and Communism is a result of unjust treatment of people. So I'm a believer in responsible capitalism (some fairness). These people you (47 Dog) seem to be defending are the ones that through you out on the street. I'm not saying companies shouldn't have the right to furlough if needed, but UAL flushed. Meanwhile Glenn kept getting his.....


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