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Wow. Just got the CAL list emailed to me complete with pics! What a concept, names AND pics. 23 pages with 33 per page (23 on the last page). That's 749!! Isn't that about 15% of the pilot group?? Damn. We have app. 135 over here, or < 2%. This list will come in handy someday when/if we ever get an ISL. :cool: What a bunch of losers.

Sled

A lot of them are gone, but it is a great list. Nearly 2000 scabs over a 3 year strike at CAL, over 500 at UA in one month.

Yeap. And some of those 2000 left CAL and came here to scab....CAL double scabs. Their familes must be proud. Good to hear that a lot of those guys are gone.

Sled

Ha! We have those "Super Scabs" here too. One even scabbed Patco before coming here... Last name is Banas, so the running joke on a bathroom stall in EWR says that Scab stands for Sure Can Ask Banas. Or Standard Continental Airlines Briefing.

Unfortunately, a bunch of the UAL scabs were ex-Continental. Not sure of the exact # but they're all documented on a master scab list somewhere.

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sat in the jumpseat of CAL and had a scab Captain. Guy thought he was gods gift to earth, and broke every reg on earth. Joked about how he was a giant regional captain. Was about 50 and hired in 85. Spent the entire 4 hour flight talking.

And they were all forgiven by ALPA. Except for the EAL scabs we inherited in '97, they werent needed as pawns to get another airline back into the ALPA fold and weren't forgiven.

It's even better when "Capt Jack" (referred to above) tells ATC on the radio that he worked as a controller during those above mentioned years, during the strike!!......True story, was there to witness it in all it's splendor.

An absolute true "T-Bag".....just incase you reading Jack:rolleyes:

FYI....The list starts (upper left corner on page 1) with the 'youngest' SCAB, or last to retire (05/2028)

The scabs should get battle stars too.


But, they would be required to paint theirs pink and the stars should be below the wings instead of above them. This way they can more readilly identified.

Funny story, last year when the CAL LAX ops went to a self serve operation I was passing thru on day 1 of a trip and the last ops guy was setting up the computers for us to get paperwork and the LAX pilots company v-files (place for revisions, flaming bags of poo, etc) was over in a corner. Came thru 2 days later and the v-files had been moved behind a locked door and that pictoral scab list had been tacked to the wall with a HUGE felt marker SCAB written on the wall with an <--- pointing to the list.

Only took two days of no supervision, cracked me up. Lotsa Scabs in LA for CAL, percentage wise.

Does the name Skippy K ring a bell? Dbl CAL SCAB, Fleet Qual and let's not forget....Drug runner

CAL had a few that hadn't reached their full potential after crossing the PATCO strike line, when they came to CAL in the early 83 classes. Now that's ingrained genetics.

Ick. Feel like I need a bath after perusing those pages. A few familiar faces. At least a couple that I knew have been gone for years. Can't wait till they're all gone - anyone know when the last one retires? Should have a huge party to show his pathetic ass out the door...

Some of those guys look old considering they have 15+ years to go.

I wondered when these guys would be mentioned here. A whole pack of TRUE EASTERN SCABS migrated to CAL from Express One Int'l in '97/'98. Doubt they mention much about their past lives when flying with them.

For someone who wasn't around when all these strikes were going around , are there any books or written documents that sum up the story of the scab incidents that took place ?

Saw one from college. She slept her way through it, and we all had bets that she'd be one of the first in line there. Didn't disappoint. Funny thing is a Fed I know flew with a DC-10 crew years later and her name was brought up. Crew said even the scabs hated her.

Another guy was a surprise. Knew him when he was a CFI in the NE. Last thing I'd have expected from him.

Theres a guy on there whos daughter used to be an FA where I last worked. Boy was she proud of Daddy. I knew the whole time he was on there and I wanted to vomit listening to her.

Flying The Line by George Hopkins - volumes 1&2 are a great history lesson. Also "From Wooden Wings" was required reading for all UAL new-hires. Here's a link:
http://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/Desktop...cumentID=10671

Here is a sad thing. I know a guy who wanted me to "getting him in" at the regional I used to work at. 20 years old-400 hours Total Time. I told him to get some real world experience, and I would help. Needless to say, I found out he was contacting everybody he could to get into a regional. You see, flight instructing, flying checks, etc was beneath him. Well he got hire last summer, with no help from me.

Not long ago, he had heard about the potential strike, and the possibility of "a line to cross" he asked if I would cross the line to get off furlough (1437) I gave him a few choice words regarding that, to paraphrase I said NO. He told me he would be the first one in line, because flying for a regional sucks, and his superior flying skills would be better appreciated at a major. And if the opportunity is there, why should he do it by the numbers, when he can just jump to "Where he belongs" I have tried to tell him what a bad attitude that is in this industry, that that could burn a lot of bridges, but he doesn't care.

He now had asked if a strike comes and pilots start crossing lines, to please call him ASAP. These kids, I tell you.

Lists are great and all, but being in the 21st century I'm really surprised no one has made a 'Scab App' for smart phone devices. Names, past histories, commuting details.

Great idea...we could all install on the company issued IPADS so that the scabs working for management monitoring the IPADs information could see their pictures. :)

Isn't coffield a union lobbyist? Kind of ironic, don't ya think?