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Look who is talking!
May 1, 2012
Yesterday, April 30, 2012, the Company learned through a press release that United MEC Chairman Captain Jay Heppner intends to direct the ALPA President to formally submit the paperwork to the National Mediation Board (“NMB”) seeking release from mediation. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THE LAST FEW WEEKS? Notwithstanding this rhetoric, ALPA, the Company and the NMB have agreed to the current process of small group meetings utilizing the mediation services of the NMB. Neither ALPA nor the NMB have informed us that the process won’t continue. Recognizing that there are many issues left to address, the process is working and we continue to make progress on scheduling and the other open sections of the contract. In an effort to focus on steps to reach a joint agreement, the parties enlisted the assistance of the senior mediator who was involved in reaching the sUA flight attendant agreement in early January. In the planning meeting she attended on April 11, 2012, the Company proposed that the principals accelerate negotiations in a concentrated, three-week period beginning In April. We recommended addressing the largest stumbling blocks to a deal, namely scope, benefits and rates of pay. Once these large economic issues are resolved the Company and ALPA would be in a much better position to more quickly resolve the more than 150 or so items that remain outstanding. In the meeting, ALPA informed the Company that due to “internal issues”, they could not negotiate these items until after scheduling was complete. The Company and ALPA currently estimate completion of the scheduling and related sections will occur in mid-May. OF WHAT YEAR? The Company has made an effort to conclude these negotiations, including our proposal in 2011, through binding arbitration. We have put substantial value on the table that is in excess of the current Delta rates of pay and we’ve had conceptual discussions about a contract with total pilot cost increases of over 20%. DID YOU SAY CURRENT DAL PAY RATES?, TOO LATE! Conversely the current ALPA proposal is valued in excess of $1.3 billion in incremental cost per year and jeopardizes the viability of the Company. Successful negotiation requires real commitment and a willingness to address the issues and concerns of both parties to the negotiation. Engaging in a multi-faceted political campaign while failing to communicate directly will not facilitate a joint agreement. We can agree on one thing - our pilots deserve a fair joint agreement and the Company remains committed to reaching one. |
Current DAL rates were so 2 years ago :)
In only weeks those numbers will be up 20% if the pace of negotiations goes as fast as they are now over at DAL. So DAL + at the time of signing - tick tock Jeffy. |
Originally Posted by Shrek
(Post 1180230)
Current DAL rates were so 2 years ago :)
In only weeks those numbers will be up 20% if the pace of negotiations goes as fast as they are now over at DAL. So DAL + at the time of signing - tick tock Jeffy. |
He calls it rhetoric? The company proposed principles to accelerate?
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
(Post 1180220)
May 1, 2012
Yesterday, April 30, 2012, the Company learned through a press release that United MEC Chairman Captain Jay Heppner intends to direct the ALPA President to formally submit the paperwork to the National Mediation Board (“NMB”) seeking release from mediation. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THE LAST FEW WEEKS? Notwithstanding this rhetoric, ALPA, the Company and the NMB have agreed to the current process of small group meetings utilizing the mediation services of the NMB. Neither ALPA nor the NMB have informed us that the process won’t continue. Recognizing that there are many issues left to address, the process is working and we continue to make progress on scheduling and the other open sections of the contract. In an effort to focus on steps to reach a joint agreement, the parties enlisted the assistance of the senior mediator who was involved in reaching the sUA flight attendant agreement in early January. In the planning meeting she attended on April 11, 2012, the Company proposed that the principals accelerate negotiations in a concentrated, three-week period beginning In April. We recommended addressing the largest stumbling blocks to a deal, namely scope, benefits and rates of pay. Once these large economic issues are resolved the Company and ALPA would be in a much better position to more quickly resolve the more than 150 or so items that remain outstanding. In the meeting, ALPA informed the Company that due to “internal issues”, they could not negotiate these items until after scheduling was complete. The Company and ALPA currently estimate completion of the scheduling and related sections will occur in mid-May. OF WHAT YEAR? The Company has made an effort to conclude these negotiations, including our proposal in 2011, through binding arbitration. We have put substantial value on the table that is in excess of the current Delta rates of pay and we’ve had conceptual discussions about a contract with total pilot cost increases of over 20%. DID YOU SAY CURRENT DAL PAY RATES?, TOO LATE! Conversely the current ALPA proposal is valued in excess of $1.3 billion in incremental cost per year and jeopardizes the viability of the Company. Successful negotiation requires real commitment and a willingness to address the issues and concerns of both parties to the negotiation. Engaging in a multi-faceted political campaign while failing to communicate directly will not facilitate a joint agreement. We can agree on one thing - our pilots deserve a fair joint agreement and the Company remains committed to reaching one. |
The company is still stuck on delta plus a dollar.
a 20% raise based on what? UAL rates or CAL rates? Got scope? |
There is only ONE way to move this process forward.
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So is this May 1st letter from UCH management? Is it from Jay Pierce? I don't know. Seriously, There is no name on the bottom.... "The company has made an effort to conclude these negotiations"??...and the company remains commited to reachin one"?? This sounds to me like more UCH company dribble but, I honestly can't tell who wrote it. I will assume it's company propaganda and not from J.P. It's getting harder to tell the difference these days.
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
(Post 1180302)
So is this May 1st letter from UCH management? Is it from Jay Pierce? I don't know. Seriously, There is no name on the bottom...
Lee....A source/or author would be appreciated, or was your thread title "Look who is talking" that of a Riddle for us to decipher??;) Details please.... |
Originally Posted by SoCalGuy
(Post 1180350)
Was thinking the SAME thing when I read it earlier this morning.....Who 'penned' the dissertation?!?!
Lee....A source/or author would be appreciated, or was your thread title "Look who is talking" that of a Riddle for us to decipher??;) Details please.... United Airlines Negotiations : Employees : Pilots |
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