Today's mgmt. maneuver
 

And the maneuvers begin, a media "update" with no meaningful change from previous content......really?

United puts final touches on major Boeing 737 order: sources: Thomson Reuters Business News - MSN Money

So if you read the story, here is the takeaway
- deal is not final
- deal could be concluded in the next few weeks (summer)
- number of planes not final

This story, without substance and hinting at order jeopardy, is fed to the media 2 days
after the United Negotiations website characterizes the pilot request for release as rhetoric.
Thanks Jeff, looking forward to the next maneuver.

All they are doing is checking the bet. Nothing going on, so they are just reminding everyone they are still at the table, with a hand to play.


they checked.................ALPA's response is?

Wow. How did you make that story all about us???

They are negotiating for new planes. That's all.

Management may try to dangle a carrot, just ignore it. They aren't going to change their business plan for us.

But as usual, pilots think its all about us, get all worked up and end up MAKING STUPID DECISIONS!!!!!

Not everything is about the pilots, shocking I know.

Airline pilot central needs a new name......Drama Queen Central

Either way, who cares? Those planes are REPLACEMENTS. You don't merge an airline to grow.

It wouldn't need a new name if it had far more adults and fewer children participating.

When one factors in that most comments far exceed the guidelines in the ALPA code-of-ethics, it becomes "entertaining unprofessionalism" at best, damaging to the professional image and embarrassing at it's worst.

Who wants to fly a guppy anyway?:D

Lol. How true. I think mgmt and the press come here for a laugh and watch the back biting childishness ensue.

Chicks dig winglets, and planes with hubcaps.

Any tiny, short, narrow, little cockpits.;)

True dat, Hoss. Whistling ******can of death. If you bear any physical resemblance to your avatar's namesake, then yes you would be a miserable SOB in the narrow pointy switch head contusion giving 'pit. But it's not the size, right? Least that's what my wife keeps telling me...

Does that explain the "big watch"??

Anything we should know about?!?:D

I will fly the "Guppy" for what my SWA neighbor makes. Makes more then our 777 guys and has just about as much time off.

I love the guppy. Its like my first girlfriend. I have a soft spot in my heart for her but now that she is bigger I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life on her.

Actually I would consider flying it if the QOL was better on it than the A320. The bus is much more comfortable to be trapped in on a 3hr+ flight.

And why do you keep finding those size 14 tennis shoes under the bed :). Just a little levity amidst the drama.

Yep I'm 6'4" and 250 lbs. I had a torrid love affair with the the queen "B"-737 I flew it at America West and for three years at UAL. But After moving on I've never looked back. Tell you what though, show me the money and I'll gladly shoe horn myself into the pointy end of a Super Guppy.


BTW just so you guys know.

I have a HUGE watch. ;)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...yn/PBwatch.jpg
You're all jealous...Admit it!

Toss in some "bling", and you got a "watch"!:D
http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-conten...vor_Flav-3.jpg

Dat's da bomb!! I wonder if they make a wrist band for that sucker?

They make cockpits bigger than the 73?

After purgatory in the ole 3 holer, the NG looks positively futuristic.

Gimme a Boeing. Busses are the Kia of jets. Cheap, flimsy and disposable.

There's no way I'd take a Bus some of the places we've gone in with the 727 and the folks at Everett passed as much along to the 73 as they could. Best damn planes ever built.

We weren't even talking about the DC-8..;)

The 737 "Best damn planes ever built" not a chance. Even today's 900ER is a tube of compromise.

The original 737 was designed and built at the same time as the 747 and many in Seattle said they definitely used the second team to design it. The 737 was slower than designed, used more runway than designed, shook when in the air, had a horrible reverse set up, couldn't get over mountains with out "drift down" and not to mention the worst cockpit to date (small and noisy).

Here are just a few fixes to the design issues:
- The original had an inflatable collars instead of a gear doors. They would not inflate or deflate at the proper time and were replaced with "mud flaps" to "seal" the gear well (gear got stuck up or down occasionally).
- It was delivered with the pneumatic reversers of the B727 and DC-9, which would actually make the airplane go faster when deployed (put air cushion under wing). They were replaced with hydraulic reverses at an angle (which made the airplane stop better than the brakes).
- The airplane had a terrible shake because of the horrible airflow over the tail, which is where those fins came alongside the vertical stab.
- The airplane had (and still does have) the noisiest interior jet on the market.
- It was nick-named the sh*t shaker by business men because of it's ability to turn light chop into moderate turbulence.

The only reason the 737 is still flying is because SWA wanted it. The 757 is by far a superior airplane in all aspects but it isn't cheap and Boeing stopped production.

Oh well I fly what they pay me to fly!

Your right. The Diesel 8 was one hell of a jet. 3 to 1 descent planning was for real in that tank.

Loved the FE station on the -40s. Looked like Frankenstein's lab. Only busier FE in the business was flying sideways on the L10.

I guess I'm "ruint" I went from flying DC-8's to the 737-200-300-500. My initial impression of the 737 was "Tin can, light weight over glorified GA bird, that was missing the flight deck." The difference between the two was literally like going from a heavy weight industrial machine to a clown car.

The regional/GA guys who were in my class who were flying the 737 as their first "big" jet were all on cloud 9. So I suppose that it all depends on your personal experiences as to your impression of a certain airplane.

You forgot noisy.

Hot in the summer. A useless windshield wiper that would inevitably rise into your field of vision. An inefficient airplane that passengers did not like to fly on.(A couple of United's excuses for parking them)

If they could bring them back with the 1437, I'm all for it.

You must have that "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going" bumper sticker on you IROC Camaro.