The CAL pilots are not bound by the injunction. Just a friendly reminder.

Not true!!!!!

The injunction is ALPA and includes ALL UAL pilots.

I don't think that is quite right either. Our union reps have always stated it is a L-UAL pilot injunction..........and since we are still separate pilot groups, we are not bound by it. Anyone else?:confused:

Nope, not true. Injunction does NOT include sCal pilots according to my rep this morning. They are, however, expecting legal action from the company next week to try and rectify that.

The question has not really been answered, and has not been tested in court. 2 years ago, we asked ALPA National useless lawyers if it included CO pilots, and they basically said yes. Now, under the SOC, I wouldn't bet money on a favorable outcome in court, since we have done so well in court...

It maybe a minor point to some, but do we have a bunch of absolute morons in our Union leadership that constantly misspell "official" communications?

Many guys get all worked up about our professionalism with our uniforms and wearing the hat and other BS, but when the "leaders" in our union misspell words in official communication, it makes us look like a bunch of high school dropouts.

They probably post 90% of our official Comm in the urinal in the executive bathroom as a joke.

Can't we get them a secretary to QC these e-mails?

OK Life, ewr, and Lerxst here it is:

1. This case is before the Court on Plaintiff United Air Lines, Inc.’s (“United’s” or the
“Company’s”) Motion for Preliminary Injunction enjoining the Air Line Pilots Association,
International (“ALPA”), which represents pilots at United through the United Air Lines Master
Executive Council (“MEC”); members of the MEC’s Industrial Relations Committee (“IRC”)
Steven Tamkin (“Tamkin”), Robert Domaleski (“Domaleski”), Xavier Fernandez (“Fernandez”),
officers and members at United; and an individual United pilot, Anthony Freeman (“Freeman”)
(collectively, “Defendants”), and all persons acting in concert therewith, from calling, permitting,
instigating, authorizing, encouraging, participating in, approving or continuing any form of
interference with United’s airline operations, including but not limited to any strike, work stoppage,
sick-out, slowdown, work to rule campaign, concerted refusal to accept voluntary or overtime flight
assignments, or other concerted refusal to perform normal pilot operations in violation of the
Railway Labor Act, 45 U.S.C. § 151, et seq. (the “RLA”).

enjoining "ALPA" who "represents" the United Pilots and "all persons acting in concert therewith"

What do you guys not see here? Basically if your "reps" say the LCAL pilots are not part of this then they are WRONG! says so right here in front of you. It is ALPA and you are represented by ALPA and ALL persons.

But I'd rather shoot first than ask questions.

Zoomie:

I assume by your name you come from that highly academic institution from Colorado Springs?

Maybe you got it wrong? Maybe the write wanted to talk about the "red face" they would be getting if they act out side of the "Official"

(Official, an adjective
2.of or pertaining to an office or position of duty, trust, or authority: official powers.
3.authorized or issued authoritatively: an official report.
4.holding office.
5.appointed or authorized to act in a designated capacity: an official representative.
6.(of an activity or event) intended for the notice of the public and performed or held on behalf of officials or of an organization; formal: the official opening of a store.)

direction?

Relax and get a life.

Then shoot away, because you are still wrong. You even posted the reason why, which I highlighted. The companies have merged, but the MEC's have not and CAL pilots are not represented by the UAL MEC nor bound to legal instruments levied against them.

For example, ALL of the UAL MEC comm has to have the injunction verbage at the end of their messages, no such conditional statements are required to be applied to CAL MEC ones.

Regardless, the company has even admitted trying to "capture" the CAL pilots under the injunction last August, and will undoubtedly try again... probably next week.

Exactly. They have the time to add an MEC to the injunction in order to stave off having to pay the pilots. Why is this not seen by the NMB as simply delaying and stalling the negotiations? It sure would be nice to see inside FLIBS screwed up head to look at just what exactly he plans to do with this contract and this company for that matter.