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Ottopilot 06-15-2012 03:18 PM

Center seat dead head pay
 
I've looked everywhere and yes, I've used search functions. I'm looking for the CAL 150% pay agreement on center seats while deadheading. I got stuck today in the center seat for 5+ hours. I'd like to get the extra pay, but I want to read the agreement. Thanks.

SpecialTracking 06-15-2012 03:26 PM

I hope you weren't flying after that. Sounds pretty fatiguing.

Ottopilot 06-15-2012 03:50 PM

No. I'm off for 10 days!

Texandrvr 06-15-2012 04:48 PM

It's in the TPA.

SlickMachine 06-15-2012 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot:1212904
I've looked everywhere and yes, I've used search functions. I'm looking for the CAL 150% pay agreement on center seats while deadheading. I got stuck today in the center seat for 5+ hours. I'd like to get the extra pay, but I want to read the agreement. Thanks.

Just fill out a pay claim, crew pay investigates, it will show on your current pay register by the 6th of the following month.

cal73 06-15-2012 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 1212904)
I've looked everywhere and yes, I've used search functions. I'm looking for the CAL 150% pay agreement on center seats while deadheading. I got stuck today in the center seat for 5+ hours. I'd like to get the extra pay, but I want to read the agreement. Thanks.

Your CPO will be able to help you with that. If they tell you to submit a pay claim for it. Ask them how/Show me how...If no assistance then let me know.

gettinbumped 06-15-2012 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 1212904)
I've looked everywhere and yes, I've used search functions. I'm looking for the CAL 150% pay agreement on center seats while deadheading. I got stuck today in the center seat for 5+ hours. I'd like to get the extra pay, but I want to read the agreement. Thanks.

Was this a CAL pilot only provision? I hadn't heard it on the UAL side and DEFINITELY want to know about it if this situation should arise. I agree, though, it would only apply if finishing a duty period, as I middle seats in coach are WAY fatiguing.

cadetdrivr 06-16-2012 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1213139)
Was this a CAL pilot only provision? I hadn't heard it on the UAL side and DEFINITELY want to know about it if this situation should arise. I agree, though, it would only apply if finishing a duty period, as I middle seats in coach are WAY fatiguing.

It's CAL only.

Personally, I'll take the UAL policy of 1st or E+ (depending on length and aircraft config) since there is no provision to force a pilot into E.

osuav8r 06-16-2012 07:35 PM

Watch your payroll advice like a HAWK
 
I just wanted to add that I got dragged through the mud on one of these situations. First, they flatly denied my pay claim because they said they showed me in a non middle seat. I kept the boarding pass though, so I followed up with the assistant chief pilot. Eventually my pay claim was approved, but here's the kicker........ the extra money never showed up. You have to watch them every step of the way and make sure you're getting paid because they WILL try to F you out of it.

80ktsClamp 06-16-2012 07:38 PM

I've had to do the middle seat dhd for 4+ hours at DL then fly another 4 hours back.

That was a loonnng day.


"Hey... what's your route?"

"You ever get scared up there?"

"My neighbor is a pilot, do you know him?"

"Are you a pilot or copilot?"

ScrewedByUa 06-21-2012 07:50 PM

DH on CAL is always in a middle seat for UA crews. Mgmt deems it an "offline" DH, meaning F is booked "if available". Yeah, right! From SFO to the east coast in a middle seat is quite a fatiguing experience. We lost our FC deadheads when Whiteferg and Co. decided to give it away in bankruptcy

Ottopilot 06-21-2012 07:55 PM

Anyone hear what we are negotiating for in this area?

buddies8 06-21-2012 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1213740)
I've had to do the middle seat dhd for 4+ hours at DL then fly another 4 hours back.

That was a loonnng day.


"Hey... what's your route?"

"You ever get scared up there?"

"My neighbor is a pilot, do you know him?"

"Are you a pilot or copilot?"


Answer in order,

here and there.
every time i am awake,
hell yeah, we were in rehab together,
depends on the time of the month and what my wife tells me i am.

Tony Nelson 06-22-2012 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1216590)
answer in order,

here and there.
Every time i am awake,
hell yeah, we were in rehab together,
depends on the time of the month and what my wife tells me i am.

outstanding!!


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