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SoCalGuy 07-30-2012 08:34 AM

Council 171 Update (IAH)
 
Local Council 171 – July 29, 2012 Update



Mounting Failures



Team smisek is setting new records and entering undiscovered territory each and every day. No other management team has accumulated so many failures in such a short time. I’ll touch on just a few that affect our lives:



VJM: Have you ever seen so many VJM notices? Absolutely unbelievable. We have been using VJM all year and now at an even more unprecedented rate. That represents a huge failure of management to staff this airline correctly.



Alleged increase in sick leave: The company informs us daily that our sick leave is at unprecedented levels. If that is true, it indicates another management failure. Management must recognize that man and machine require scheduled down time and maintenance. We, as a pilot group, have been pushed beyond the breaking point. With no time to recharge our collective batteries, we just break down. Any increase in sick leave is most likely a direct result of this schedule abuse. When you are worn down and tired you are more susceptible to illness. Management Failure!!



Schedule Reliability: We have all seen how bad the operation is. Personally it embarrasses me to see how bad things are going. I care about my passengers and want to give great service. We hear the complaints from our passengers and see firsthand just how bad things are. Late aircraft: no gates: poor catering: and the list goes on. Management Failure!!



PBS Failures: How many times has PBS failed this year? I lost count. Management Failure!!



Industry Leading Contract: Your management team has failed to compensate this pilot group as it should. Management wants you to pay for their failures. This is not a broke airline. Management gets industry leading compensation and so should the pilots. Is mr smisek really worth 14 million a year? I don’t see any indication of it. Management Failure!!



Welcome On Board



Management would like nothing more than to never hear the name Continental Airlines again. Unfortunately for them, there are still thousands of employees that work for Continental Airlines. I have traveled to IAD several times this year from DFW. It is usually on United Express. Each and every time I have traveled I hear ”Welcome on board United Express flight 123 operated by Skywest Airlines” I see no difference here than “operated by a legacy Continental Airlines crew”. My AFM says Continental Airlines, my FOM says Continental Airlines, we work for Continental Airlines. This merger is not over for the pilots until we have a contract that says United Airlines. Our FOM states that part of our responsibility in making PA’s to the passengers is to tell the truth. That’s all I am asking.



“Welcome on board United Flight 223 proudly operated by the pilots and flight attendants of Continental Airlines.”



Don’t add to it and don’t get “political” with it. Just plain and simple. If Jeff wants this stopped then maybe he should show up to at least one session with the negotiation committee.



As always I want to tell you I am battle star ready. Please keep your frustration and emotion out of the cockpit. There will always be a place and time to demonstrate our resolve for the JCBA. Tomorrow in DC is a good place. Fly Safe. Stay informed and contact your Reps regularly



Captain Eric Hunter

Local Council 171 Chairman





Houston:



Communications at this point are….complicated. Nonetheless, Eric and I understand that information and an honest assessment of our present position are necessary and vital. The company remains reluctant to negotiate an agreement that is acceptable or ratifiable. As CAL Pilots, we need to acknowledge that CAL management has never had to pay industry-leading wages to our Pilots, therefore the management team that frank built finds themselves in “undiscovered territory”. In order to give credit where credit is due, Captain’s Jay Heppner and Jay Pierce have not accepted any substandard proposal that the company has offered; The JNC has remained steadfast in seeking an agreement that is appropriate to the world’s largest airline; the NMB has NOT rejected our multiple requests for release.



Team smisek is stealing $58 million dollars a month from our Pilot group when compared to the Delta Pilot group, while insatiably compensating themselves far more than their management counterparts at Delta and the other major airlines.

http://www.theunfriendlyskies.org/th...-compensation/



As Pilots, we truly wish to fly safe and on time and make our aircraft an enjoyable reward, for circumnavigating the TSA, the United Reservation System, the boarding process, and smisek’s face on the welcome aboard video; it is an absolute shame that our passengers have to endure those 3 situations in order to reach the safe and enjoyable service that our flight crews provide. The aggregate 12,505 pilots of this airline will continue to operate professionally, but will not ignore the fact that the Delta Pilot on the crew bus works for a company that treats their Pilots with over $600 millions dollars a year in “dignity and respect”; and Delta did that 7 months early, as opposed to the January 2009 amendable date that our management disregards. At this point, I have no idea as to whether ignorance or arrogance is to blame for our management’s abysmal performance. It should be obvious that the pilots of the world’s largest airline will not accept sub Delta wages while team smisek feast at the detriment to employees and our passengers. In short, smisek needs to get serious about a fair and ratifiable contract and understand that paying industry-leading wages will produce industry-leading performance. The CAL and UAL MEC’s will not tire, or relent, or acquiesce to anything less than industry leading.



Lastly, the United MEC has authorized informational picketing at the nation’s White House this Monday. Eric Hunter and I fully support and encourage this effort to demonstrate our frustration with team smisek’s theft of $58 million dollars a month from our Pilots. Under the leadership of Captain Jay Heppner, the United Pilot group has lead the charge in an effort to seek release to self-help in order to achieve the fair and industry-leading contract that our pilots deserve.



The quest to achieve said contract is multi-faceted and active. I do realize the frustration associated with the lack of information and details in current com. Please understand that a 99% strike vote at the world’s largest airline, coincident with smisek‘s tripling his own pay and his continued addiction to concessions and outsourcing, should not go unnoticed by our government. The RLA is flawed and at the crux of our current disposition. Please exercise your First-Amendment Rights at our nation’s capital and show the solidarity (UAL/CAL) that is germane to our quest of parity. Your presence also reaffirms our resistance to the corporate greed and inequity demonstrated by an incompetent, yet well-compensated and arrogant smisek and his merry band of corporate raiders.



Fraternally,

horrido27 07-30-2012 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 1237391)
Local Council 171 – July 29, 2012 Update

Lastly, the United MEC has authorized informational picketing at the nation’s White House this Monday. Eric Hunter and I fully support and encourage this effort to demonstrate our frustration with team smisek’s theft of $58 million dollars a month from our Pilots. Under the leadership of Captain Jay Heppner, the United Pilot group has lead the charge in an effort to seek release to self-help in order to achieve the fair and industry-leading contract that our pilots deserve.



The quest to achieve said contract is multi-faceted and active. I do realize the frustration associated with the lack of information and details in current com. Please understand that a 99% strike vote at the world’s largest airline, coincident with smisek‘s tripling his own pay and his continued addiction to concessions and outsourcing, should not go unnoticed by our government. The RLA is flawed and at the crux of our current disposition. Please exercise your First-Amendment Rights at our nation’s capital and show the solidarity (UAL/CAL) that is germane to our quest of parity. Your presence also reaffirms our resistance to the corporate greed and inequity demonstrated by an incompetent, yet well-compensated and arrogant smisek and his merry band of corporate raiders.



Fraternally,

HUH?
Please tell me it's next Monday, the 6th of Aug. Have not heard of this till now and since this blastmail came out yesterday, the "next" Monday would be today!

If it is today, this is a failure of ALPA (CAL & UAL) Comm..

Motch

SoCalGuy 07-30-2012 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 1237426)
HUH?
Please tell me it's next Monday, the 6th of Aug. Have not heard of this till now and since this blastmail came out yesterday, the "next" Monday would be today!

If it is today, this is a failure of ALPA (CAL & UAL) Comm..

Motch

Check PM for LEC Rep contact info......

Ottolillienthal 07-30-2012 02:43 PM

The way I read it there is a huge disconnect here...............


I got a blastmail recently from CAL MEC telling us NOT to go to the white house to picket.

The blast mail said it was internet forum based and not authorized.

The communicaiton above, while from a CAL pilot rep does say it was authorized by the UAL MEC, I find it odd that:

A. CAL and UAL MEC's are not on the same page
B. A CAL rep would toot the horn of the UAL MEC
C. a joint SPSC event has not been publicized to the pilots

El10 07-30-2012 03:28 PM

Check your email. The msg you got was to not attend picketing in front of Congress that was not sanctioned by the SPC. Today in front of the White House was a sanctioned UAL SPC event.

Ottolillienthal 07-30-2012 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by El10 (Post 1237599)
Check your email. The msg you got was to not attend picketing in front of Congress that was not sanctioned by the SPC. Today in front of the White House was a sanctioned UAL SPC event.

Wow!

I was off today.

I am a CAL pilot, and I would have gladly gone if I had known about it and had been invited.

Maxepr1 07-30-2012 03:43 PM

I was off and would have went too....

Ottolillienthal 07-30-2012 06:33 PM

Updated 5:24 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON -- As labor disputes roil the airlines, dozens of United Airlines pilots picketed today in front of the White House. The group protested against United for failing to resolve contract talks and for what the union characterizes as sending jobs overseas.
Pilots wearing their caps and white shirts with epaulets walked silently in a loop along Pennsylvania Avenue holding signs that said "Outsourcing is a bad idea" and "the Railway Labor Act is broken." While more than 60 pilots circled at noon, organizers expected 300 pilots to ultimately participate before it ended at 2 p.m.
PHOTO GALLERY: The fleet and hubs of United and Continental airlines
Pilots at the combined United and Continental nearly unanimously approved a strike July 17, a vote that came after two years of negotiations following the merger.
ARCHIVES: United pilots vote to authorize strike by big margin, but ... (July 18, 2012)
But under the Railway Labor Act, which also governs airlines, a strike can't occur until the National Mediation Board releases pilots from talks and there is a 30-day "cooling off" period. Pilots have asked three times to be released by the board, but the board has continued talks.
"We want a contract, not a strike," Halli Mulei, a first-officer based in Chicago who has flown for United for 16 years, said outside the White House. "United Airlines has put in basically a holding pattern."
Union representatives say 1,437 pilots furloughed during the last decade haven't been called back to work, which is described as a sticking point in contract talks.
The union's complaint about outsourcing centers on a daily Madrid-Washington flight that is part of United's route network but is actually operated with Aer Lingus aircraft and crew. That, the union says, means less work for United's domestic pilots.
ARCHIVES: United, Aer Lingus forge 'an unusual linkup' (Jan. 2009)
ARCHIVES: United, Aer Lingus boost trans-Atlantic pact (Jan. 2009)
In reaction to the protest, Megan McCarthy, a United spokeswoman, says: "We are focused on reaching a new agreement with our pilots and are currently in negotiations."
And, come this fall, the United Madrid-Washington route that's operated by Aer Lingus will no longer be a point of contention.
McCarthy tells USA TODAY that United is terminating its agreement with Aer Lingus for that route. The termination will take effect 90 days from Wednesday (Aug. 1), after United notified Aer Lingus last week, according to McCarthy.
United pilots have staged several protests in the last year over the pace of talks. In May 2011, about 150 pilots marched in downtown Chicago, where United has headquarters, to mark the second anniversary of the merger. That June, pilots gathered at the company's shareholder meeting. And more than 700 pilots demonstrated on Wall Street in September 2011.
Pilots at several larger airlines are angry that bankruptcies have eliminated pensions and reduced staffs. United isn't the only airline with labor disputes:
--US Airways is still negotiating contracts after merging with America West in 2005. The airline's flight attendants rejected a proposed contract in April. But chief executive Doug Parker said in a speech July 18 at the National Press Club that the labor talks would be resolved.
--American Airlines pilots reached a tentative contract agreement in June, and results of a ratification vote are expected Aug. 8. But American's union leaders for pilots, flight attendants and machinists are supporting a merger with US Airways.
--A wildcat strike cancelled dozens of Air Canada flights in March, before the Air Canada Pilots Association and the airline resumed negotiations on a contract that expired a year earlier.

horrido27 07-31-2012 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 1237494)
Check PM for LEC Rep contact info......

SoCal..
I already have their contact info. What would you have me do?

Point is, there was a blurb in a Local Council Blastmail about a sanctioned ALPA Event and (it seems) not many pilots knew about this.

Failure of Comm?!

Motch

Maxepr1 07-31-2012 10:49 AM

Newark blast mail?


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