No it started back in 1926/1934 with the respective formations of the origins of United Airlines and Continental Airlines: Varney Air Lines and Varney Speed Lines. It was all a grand scheme laid out in the early days of aviation betting that successive mergers and acquisitions of then as-yet-to-be established competitors would be made and approved over the next 75-80 years so as to create the world's largest airline. That Varney guy was one shrewd man with amazing vision of the end-game.

No we won't forget him he is the reason we have had some cal folks at ual for some time now, you remember them the ones that would not cross. Now they will be junior to those that were willing to cross when this is all said and done.

DOHHHHH....

Not those guys again. Gosh durn non scabs are ruining this career!!

Nice get right with jesus stat there!

I know this was from a while ago, but from my experience working for the SSC at UAL, you don't know what you're talking about.

UAL determines manning based on an equation relative to block hours as well. Not a pilot to aircraft ratio as you stated.

There are all kinds of variables that go into determining the number of pilots based on the type of flying (WB/NB/Int'l), how much is augmented flying versus non-augmented, overage needed to cover for vacation in each seat, etc.........

As for who's running it at UCH right now, I have no idea. I can tell you I see a lot of the same names I dealt with over a decade ago in the SSC monthly report that represent the company.

Cheers,
Lee

Can anyone with real knowledge of the agreement in principle say whether we will get longevity, as Delta furloughees get?
Also, I'm not going back to either side until there is a ratified JCBA with new pay rates!
I'm making more at a regional now than I'd make at Ual first year pay under the bankruptcy contract!
Ten years paying dues to alpa national, I go to ual, get furloughed after five months, eventually have to take a job sitting right seat in an rj for a connection carrier, and I'm offered the chance to take a pay cut and commute to iah or ewr to sit reserve under the worst rules in the industry. Unbelievable.

If we don't get longevity, then why alpa? please tell me you stood up for this...

No because unless you are a select few people on the MEC and the JNC this information is not available yet.

You'll just have to wait like the rest of us unwashed masses.

Let me save you guys some posts and cut to the chase. It started on a cool and windy day at Kitty Hawk NC in 1903. Wilbur was planning the future UAL but Orville had his heart set on CAL.

Scoop :)

As another poster pointed out to you on the other board, it helps to think outside the box. Besides, that you really want longevity but opting to not have the opportunity to vote for it's inclusion in the next contract is interesting to say the least?

Don't blame him for not wanting to come back to s-CO just so he can vote (or not). With dogsh!t work rules piled atop a lousy commute to EWR or IAH, I can't blame him. Among other reasons, it's why I'm on the sidelines, too.

SCR