Retro will hold up TA
09-19-2012, 12:05 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Still think the "retro/bonus/whatever" should be divided up in two amounts..............one for CA's and one for FO's............the same amount for ALL CA's and the same for ALL FO's. That way no one can complain about getting cheated. If they start dividing it up based on years/time/work rules/longevity/hours, etc., it could get REAL nasty, and then it will take forever to get this done. JMHO
09-19-2012, 01:19 PM
#22
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This is an idea:
CAL CA on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = Z
CAL FO on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = Y
UAL CA on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = X
UAL FO on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = W
Z * (average CAL CA pay rate raise) = A
Y * (average CAL FO pay rate raise) = B
X * (average UAL CA pay rate raise) = C
W * (average UAL FO pay rate raise) = D
(A+B) / (A+B+C+D) = CAL % of Days
(C+D) / (A+B+C+D) = UAL % of Days
Total $$ pot * CAL % of Days = CAL $$
Total $$ pot * UAL % of Days= UAL $$
CAL $$ * .6 = CAL CA $$
CAL $$ * .4 = CAL FO $$
UAL $$ * .6 = CAL CA $$
UAL $$ * .4 = CAL FO $$
CAL CA $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL CA daily rate
CAL FO $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL FO daily rate
UAL CA $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL CA daily rate
UAL FO $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL FO daily rate
Take daily rate * days in that position between your amend date and DOS = your $$
(personal opinion, but only put it in retirement account that way our elder can only enjoy it if they retire) P.S. don't want to kick you out, and I do thank you for your service
CAL CA on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = Z
CAL FO on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = Y
UAL CA on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = X
UAL FO on amendable date * days between amend and DOS = W
Z * (average CAL CA pay rate raise) = A
Y * (average CAL FO pay rate raise) = B
X * (average UAL CA pay rate raise) = C
W * (average UAL FO pay rate raise) = D
(A+B) / (A+B+C+D) = CAL % of Days
(C+D) / (A+B+C+D) = UAL % of Days
Total $$ pot * CAL % of Days = CAL $$
Total $$ pot * UAL % of Days= UAL $$
CAL $$ * .6 = CAL CA $$
CAL $$ * .4 = CAL FO $$
UAL $$ * .6 = CAL CA $$
UAL $$ * .4 = CAL FO $$
CAL CA $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL CA daily rate
CAL FO $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL FO daily rate
UAL CA $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL CA daily rate
UAL FO $$ / (total number of CA each day between amend and DOS) = CAL FO daily rate
Take daily rate * days in that position between your amend date and DOS = your $$
(personal opinion, but only put it in retirement account that way our elder can only enjoy it if they retire) P.S. don't want to kick you out, and I do thank you for your service
09-19-2012, 03:54 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Still think the "retro/bonus/whatever" should be divided up in two amounts..............one for CA's and one for FO's............the same amount for ALL CA's and the same for ALL FO's. That way no one can complain about getting cheated. If they start dividing it up based on years/time/work rules/longevity/hours, etc., it could get REAL nasty, and then it will take forever to get this done. JMHO
Last edited by Wrsofked; 09-19-2012 at 04:06 PM.
09-19-2012, 05:36 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by porqueno
Anyone see the pay rates? are they near Deltas?
When there's a TA, we'll see "something".
09-19-2012, 06:01 PM
#28
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Position: 767 Capt
Posts: 81
Where the heck are you getting this stuff??? Making it up as you go along??
Anything been put out I missed?
Have you forgotten about the 1.6 billion the BOD has already (stock) approved to be distributed to the pilots????
J
Anything been put out I missed?
Have you forgotten about the 1.6 billion the BOD has already (stock) approved to be distributed to the pilots????
J
09-19-2012, 06:11 PM
#29
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Posts: 1,415
Originally Posted by SoCalGuy
No one outside the "sequestered" has seen anything.
When there's a TA, we'll see "something".
When there's a TA, we'll see "something".
09-19-2012, 06:16 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by Wrsofked
Pound freaking sand on that....I didn't work my ass off due to short fing staffing to evenly split retro with a guy who drops everything because his wife is a doctor. It's W2 or a no vote.
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