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shiznit 11-16-2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1294358)
Nice work shiz!

A few quick comments:
  • How do you figure UAL's 5:00 ADP is worse than DAL's 4:30?
  • Did you consider factoring DC in to pay rates for comparison like our NNP did with WN rates?
  • Total pilots at DAL that are in the top pay band 777/744? [Answer: 489 CA, 525 FO, 1014 Total]
  • How many total pilots at UAL are in their top pay band 764/330/787/777/744?
    (this is obviously a softball for t-square ;-)
Cheers
George

The DAL 5:15 DPA kicks in WAY more often than the 4:30 ever will.

No. The DC was shown separately on the first post.

It is not intended to display pilot demographics, merely a comparison between the UCAL TA and the current DAL PWA. But yes, it will get T going!:D

This is totally for the UCAL pilots, I doubt they are concerned how a DAL NC "NNP" did anything.

80ktsClamp 11-16-2012 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1294407)
The DAL 5:15 DPA kicks in WAY more often than the 4:30 ever will.

That's because 4:30 is so freaking low that it barely has any effect!

porqueno 11-17-2012 04:18 AM

What's min day off?

horrido27 11-17-2012 05:02 AM

Shiznit..
Found two things wrong-
DAL PerDiem increases higher than ours. Small Point.
JCBA allows for 60 min report for un augmented International Trips! That's a biggie~

Motch

PS> Can you PM or email a copy? Thanks

Sonny Crockett 11-17-2012 05:45 AM

Why would ANYONE vote yes to this turd?

tsquare 11-17-2012 07:09 AM

You should have posted them without comment shiz. That would have been better... get it? :)

Trip7 11-17-2012 08:02 AM

Because the TA matched Delta's 76 seat RJ limit its worse just because DAL didn't increase and UAL did? Makes little sense. Worse should be changed to equal. Right below it concession should be changed to equal. Lastly, pilots want to show up for duty an hour before departure rather than 45 mins prior excluding day one? How is giving you more rest worse? I guess the $.53 per diem is more important than extra 15 minutes of sleep.

Other than that the rest look like valid, unbiased points

SeamusTheHound 11-17-2012 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 1294647)
Because the TA matched Delta's 76 seat RJ limit its worse just because DAL didn't increase and UAL did? Makes little sense. Worse should be changed to equal. Right below it concession should be changed to equal. Lastly, pilots want to show up for duty an hour before departure rather than 45 mins prior excluding day one? How is giving you more rest worse? I guess the $.53 per diem is more important than extra 15 minutes of sleep.

Other than that the rest look like valid, unbiased points

The hour show is for duty time limits.

SpecialTracking 11-17-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett (Post 1294561)
Why would ANYONE vote yes to this turd?

Because they are buying into the fear campaign. Sad.

Coach67 11-17-2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 1294546)
Shiznit..
Found two things wrong-
DAL PerDiem increases higher than ours. Small Point.
JCBA allows for 60 min report for un augmented International Trips! That's a biggie~

Motch

Motch ... yeah you are dead on. It's another way for them to get another 30min duty time out of you.


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