Sure, Lets Outsource Some More Large "RJs"
 

One generation selling out another. When will it end? How can any pilot with a conscience put a price on creating more low paying regional jobs?

United pilot agreement allows for up to 255 large RJs

Don't blame them... blame 60% of our (DL) pilot group for doing the same.

So if delta pilots jumped of a bridge u going??

You do realize that United has to bring a SNB on property flown by UAL pilots before getting remotely close to 255 large RJs right?

This is the biggest reason to vote NO on this TA. Currently the cap is 70 seats (E-170 and 66 in the CRJ-700). To increase to 76 seats, means a larger airframe, which can seat 90 (CRJ-900 and E-190) in a one class configuration. This is letting the proverbial cat out of the bag. Once we move from 70 to 76 seats, you can't go back, and it opens the door to move to 90 seats later on. It doesn't matter that there is the 255 airframe cap. The 50 seaters are going to go away slowly, so there are going to be even more and bigger RJ's flying for UA.

Scope is the biggest issue with this TA. The work rules are worse than what UA currently has, not to mention LOA 25.

For the ENTIRE industry's sake, can we all PLEASE agree this sort of scope is bad??? Nothing good can come out of this for pilots other than lower wages and more career setbacks. These aircraft should be flown by mainline pilots with mainline seniority numbers. Please.

Is there no magtow limitation in the scope clause? I heard something about the actual size of the rj's being in the definition section

While waiting in line for coffee yesterday, I ran into a L-UAL guy at one of their hubs. Here was the conversation:

Me: "How does that new TA look to you"

Him: "Great. I'm voting yes."

Me: "Really? A lot of my CAL friends hate it. Why the enthusiasm to vote yes?"

Him: "They're dumb. If it fails, UAL as we know it will be gone. Management is going to decimate our flying"

Me: "And you don't care that by voting yes you give larger RJs to my company that should be flown by mainline?"

Him: "No, I don't care. I'm outta here in three years. As long as my retirement is intact this place can burn."

Me: (Blank stare at him)

Him: (Blank stare back)

Me: "So lemme get this straight - You are afraid of losing flying while you are here, but once you retire this place 'can burn'?"

Him: (laughing) "Yep. After my last day I don't care anymore"



(Once again for full disclosure, I am an XJT guy, I have ZERO desire to fly larger aircraft here. Please tighten scope)

The federal mediator told our guys that Delta's scope disaster is now "industry standard".

So, yeah.....the DAL contract DOES affect the rest of the industry and it hurts our efforts to improve scope.

DAL continues to screw over the rest of the industry with their scope concessions. It's been going on for about 17 years now.