QuagmireGiggity

Sorry if it's here somewhere.. I saw $61 first and 98 Second year but that's all I can find.

cadetdrivr

If you are hired on Jan 15, 2013 (A320 or 737) your first year rate will be $60.92.

Second year (Jan 1, 2014 rate) $101.47/$97.25 (both the 737 and A320 fleets are split with different rates depending upon aircraft flown that leg. The A319 and 737-500/700 are on the lower rung.)

Third year (Jan 1, 2015 rate) $122.27/$117.20.

Fourth year (Jan 1, 2016 rate) $129.03/$123.67.

Fifth year (Jan 1, 2017 rate) $136.09/$130.46

In contrast, the 5th year FO rate (2017) for the 757-300/767-300 is $139.84 and the 787/777/747 is $169.06.

The highest rate on the entire table is A380 CA in 2017 @ $391.49/hr which guarantees that we will never see that aircraft.

Sunvox

Here's year one and two.

QuagmireGiggity

Thanks very much!

CleCapt

What a deal.

On contract 1997 pay rates at CAL, I get a $10/hour pay increase.

$10/hour in 15 years.

Jeffy must be laughing his a$$ off at this pilot group.

Gains were made for new hires, and other areas, and that is good.

Concessions on scope and benefits to pay for $10/hour pay raise.

Not so much.

Lobaeux

I'll admit, I'm a noob, have done no civilian flying, but have my app in with United.
Looks good to me.

(I've for my flame-retardant suit on!)

MikefromMT

At least the cost of living went down. Just kidding.

Night Hawk 6

Before you think any pilot group today is doing well and especially before entering this profession you need to read both "Flying the Line" and "Flying the Line, Volume II." Then you need to look at how far the profession has fallen since deregulation in 1978. You will have to trust me here but I can prove it if you wish, pilots today earn or have just 60 percent of the purchasing power of a Delta pilot flying 75 hours per month in 1978. And before some one cries about "everyone earns less today" take a look at management compensation and you will find that their purchasing power has increased 5 fold. Yep it may look good compared to military pay but think about this, when I compare what I made as an O-3 in 1978 with today's military pay I find that pay rates have exceeded inflation and that there is deservedly an increase in purchasing power for military members today. As long as the pilots willing accept the ineptitude of their labor representation, they are doomed to continue in the death spiral as the vote here and at AA confirm.

LAX Pilot

I don't think anyone here will argue that our pay as a profession is far less than it has been historically. We all know that most of our frustrations is squeezing out as much pay given all the constraints and obstacles (some self-imposed) that have been placed in front of us and will continue to be placed in front of us to come.

Old UCAL CA

Disagree with your premise completely.

Pilot compensation today has little to do with representation...it has to do with being in a free market since 1978 with a continued, vast oversupply of pilot labor.

Nothing will change until one sees the 15,000+ application backlog dry up at just UCH...many thousands more if one begins to count all 121's. That continuing backlog is direct evidence that thousands are willing to do the job as advertised...or less.

When that backlog begins to disappear and UCH has to solicit for applicants, you may be turning the oversupply corner...but not until then. Until that happens, there are demand limits regardless the organization handling collective bargaining chores.