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Short Bus Drive 12-29-2012 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1320323)
CCS Login>Main Page>"Schedule" Menu (at top)>"Pay ->" on drop down>Pay Register

Enter Pay Period (i.e. 1212 or 0113 etc.) and your employee number should already be in the next box. ENTER

Your pay sheet will be there for the month. Look half way over and down a few lines and it will show you "Rate" (blended) and LNGV (longevity which will show years completed...your rate will be the next step/year up...4+ years = 5 year pay). The next line down will show guarantee and the $ value of guarantee at your blended rate.

Hope that helps.
Thanks people! Found it. The pay is correct, however I don't know where they come up with the longevity. Weren't the UAL furloughed at CAL now, supposed to get 05/07/08? Mine shows 08/13/08? Don't know where that comes from? And the advance is supposed to be $3000 now..
Sorry for all the questions and complaints, but it's hard to find answers around here (IAH)...,

block plus 12-29-2012 03:48 PM
Better to have the advance stay small. when they switch pay methods they would take out less over 6 months.

Short Bus Drive 12-29-2012 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by block plus (Post 1320421)
Better to have the advance stay small. when they switch pay methods they would take out less over 6 months.
I understand that, but the bill collector's might not...
And looking over the contract, the way I read it we are to get half the gross for the previous month. So it should be a little over $4000 with my pay rate?

EWRflyr 12-30-2012 09:36 AM
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 1320432)
I understand that, but the bill collector's might not...
And looking over the contract, the way I read it we are to get half the gross for the previous month. So it should be a little over $4000 with my pay rate?
That method of pay hasn't been implemented on the L-CAL side yet. Read the implementation LOA and you will see that will start in May. At that point you will get half your guarantee (for the previous month) on the 1st and they will also start deducting the one month advance over a period of 6 months.

volasl 12-30-2012 10:35 AM
This was taken from the MEC update 12/27.

"United Furloughees flying at CAL- new pay rates with longevity credit for pay for Dec; expect increase from the 1st year advance of $750 on Jan 1 (worst case Feb 1 if programming not complete)"

pilotgolfer 12-30-2012 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by volasl (Post 1320820)
This was taken from the MEC update 12/27.

"United Furloughees flying at CAL- new pay rates with longevity credit for pay for Dec; expect increase from the 1st year advance of $750 on Jan 1 (worst case Feb 1 if programming not complete)"
Just my opinion...but this is utter incompetence. A few keystrokes in the payroll computer and this issue could go away overnight. I would gladly volunteer my payroll experience to fix this for the company.

Short Bus Drive 12-30-2012 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1320789)
That method of pay hasn't been implemented on the L-CAL side yet. Read the implementation LOA and you will see that will start in May. At that point you will get half your guarantee (for the previous month) on the 1st and they will also start deducting the one month advance over a period of 6 months.
There is no L-CAL or L-UAL "side" how I see it.
And no one has been able to point to where it exactly states this in the LOA26...
I can't find it.

APC225 12-30-2012 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 1321076)
And no one has been able to point to where it exactly states this in the LOA26.
LOA 26, Item 50. 3-I-4 : Paycheck Methodology sUA - Implemented with the effective date sCO - Implemented with the fifth full Bid Period after effective date. Upon changeover deduct unrecovered advance over 6 months

APC225 12-30-2012 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 1321076)
There is no L-CAL or L-UAL "side" how I see it.
There are 111 items in the LOA 26 implementation timeline. Some are a year or more away. For every item that has yet to be implemented we are under our old contracts.

Short Bus Drive 12-30-2012 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1321092)
LOA 26, Item 50. 3-I-4 : Paycheck Methodology sUA - Implemented with the effective date sCO - Implemented with the fifth full Bid Period after effective date. Upon changeover deduct unrecovered advance over 6 months
Knew someone was going to quote that. That's my issue. If you look at the contract, 3-I-4 speaks to performance pay, not method of pay. That is 3-I-5....


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