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Dwane 01-26-2013 04:33 AM

Being junior on the 737 vs. 75/767 in EWR?
 
Can someone shed some light on what it would be like to be the most junior EWR 737 FO vs. the most junior 75/767 EWR FO? Who would most likely get utilized more? What type of flying could one expect on the different equipment? I know it differs depending on what your goals may be, but what are some pros/cons that come to mind? Thanks in advance!

BBJdriver 01-26-2013 04:48 AM

I would check on CAL Forums for good and detailed info.

LAX Pilot 01-26-2013 06:45 AM

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LCAL dude 01-26-2013 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by BBJdriver (Post 1339150)
I would check on CAL Forums for good and detailed info.

Before you gave a dime to Uncle Mark the Enforcer, I'd go to Craig Hughes's United Pilot Forum for free

osuav8r 01-26-2013 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Dwane (Post 1339145)
Can someone shed some light on what it would be like to be the most junior EWR 737 FO vs. the most junior 75/767 EWR FO? Who would most likely get utilized more? What type of flying could one expect on the different equipment? I know it differs depending on what your goals may be, but what are some pros/cons that come to mind? Thanks in advance!

I'll take a stab at describing the difference. To give you perspective, I am an IAH 737 fo that was based in EWR for 6 months as a new hire, so take this with a grain of salt. If you do the 756 in EWR, you will pretty much only fly the 757 for a long time. It's mostly far western Europe stuff like London, Shannon, Dublin, Etc and it's pretty much all 2 pilot redeye flying. The upshot of doing it is that it's commutable. The downside of doing it is that it's pretty much exclusively 2 pilot redeye flying (no rest break in the back) which some people (me) don't do particularly well with. You will have higher seniority in seat on the 737 versus the 756 and the trip mix is a lot better in my opinion. There's a lot less redeye flying required and with the bulk of our fleet being 737-800's and 737-900's that pay the same as a 757, you're not giving hardly anything up on the hourly rate. The only downside I can see to the 737 in EWR is that a lot of times your trips aren't going to be commutable if you don't live within car distance of EWR. You will also fly 2 or 3 legs most days versus the bigger airplanes where you mostly fly one leg and you're done (not always though). Clear as mud?

Dwane 01-26-2013 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by osuav8r (Post 1339332)
I'll take a stab at describing the difference. To give you perspective, I am an IAH 737 fo that was based in EWR for 6 months as a new hire, so take this with a grain of salt. If you do the 756 in EWR, you will pretty much only fly the 757 for a long time. It's mostly far western Europe stuff like London, Shannon, Dublin, Etc and it's pretty much all 2 pilot redeye flying. The upshot of doing it is that it's commutable. The downside of doing it is that it's pretty much exclusively 2 pilot redeye flying (no rest break in the back) which some people (me) don't do particularly well with. You will have higher seniority in seat on the 737 versus the 756 and the trip mix is a lot better in my opinion. There's a lot less redeye flying required and with the bulk of our fleet being 737-800's and 737-900's that pay the same as a 757, you're not giving hardly anything up on the hourly rate. The only downside I can see to the 737 in EWR is that a lot of times your trips aren't going to be commutable if you don't live within car distance of EWR. You will also fly 2 or 3 legs most days versus the bigger airplanes where you mostly fly one leg and you're done (not always though). Clear as mud?

Thanks for the info...definitely helpful! I do live in base, so commutable trips are not a necessity....

Coto Pilot 01-26-2013 09:51 AM

What effect does FAR 117 and the new contract have on augmentation?

UAL320 01-26-2013 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Coto Pilot (Post 1339417)
What effect does FAR 117 and the new contract have on augmentation?

Unaugmented all night flying (ANF) is limited to a 9:45 duty period, which limits the block time to 7:45

fanaticalflyer 01-26-2013 05:08 PM

IAH 737 FO vs 757
 
Some people answered how it was in EWR. Now i'm trying to see the flying difference for IAH on 737 vs 75/76. I'm a line holder on 737 with lots of choices and looking at 75/76 to fly as a lineholder only. How are the 75/76 trips? Are they usually night flying (commutable) trips and can you fly as efficiently as you can on the 737? Usually 73 gets 85 hour lines for the junior guys with tons of available open trips. How about the 75/76? Also the 75/76 will have single legs with long layover, so can't see it being as efficient. And how much of the flying is actually redeye? Thanks,

bearcat 01-26-2013 10:11 PM

756 is junior to 737 IAH. You will be tired all the time with the 14 hour 3 days (changing). More flexibility with 737. If I was EWR based and junior, I would bid 757 due to being a line holder quicker. If you commute most 737 trips start early and end late. I;ve been on the 737 for 7 years and I'm tired of tearing up my uniform from getting into and out of the cockpit. 756 IAH is welcome to FLL, LAX, MCO, EWR. They are getting some HNL/OGG trips through LAX, but that will most likely go away after the SLI. FWIW, the 737 IAH has a ton of flexibility. So America, Mexico, Cananda, etc. My best schedule was IAH 737. I'm LAX now so schedule sucks a$$


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