Vacancy Bid Results
 

How long does it normally take for the final bid awards to be published? The bid closed yesterday.

Usually out the same day. I think someone from Lual turned the computer off, or put out a virus to insert Lual pilots in all vacancy.

At least for me, my GUPPY days are over. They have been for the last 17 years or so. But hey now that my kids are out of the house, I would like to spend my last 17 years on BIGFOOT of which Lual has twice as many. I will most definitely stays away from SPARKY. Maybe I will do some time on the WHALE before it goes away just for kicks.

UAL guys, are your vacancy awards (soon to be our new system) always posted on time? I can't think of ONE time that a CAL system bid has been posted on the designated award date. This often holds true with PBS too, and it's maddening.

On the L-UAL side, They normally post results a week after the bids close. I am guessing that maybe the B787 issues might be the reason for the adjustments if there are any.

Maybe they will have to re-bid the whole thing as they realize the 787 will be a hangar queen static display for the next year.

A buddy of mine (LCAL) 73 Cap said by contract it's 3 days and said they wait to the very last second...ie Friday 8 Feb 1700ish. FWIW.

Bids out.......

Well the 737 Capt spots went junior! All the way back to middle of 2006 hire dates. Standby for gnashing of teeth and emotional distress

Nah, the reserve improvements should make reserve life easier to deal with for many years to come. Congrats! Don't forget to share the wealth with the new hires during the layovers!

Not to mention mid-2005 holding 756 CAP.

'Eternal reserve' comes to mind for some reason......

What reserve improvements?

Let's not ruin the moment!

I stayed on the 777. I'd rather get paid to sleep and enjoy my overnights. Congrats to all of the new Captains!

How many FO vacancies did there end up being that need filled?

The man has broken the code. Congrats to you.

I saw a few of my L-UAL "West Coast" buddies got LAX-FO before they even saw IOE as IAH/EWR "Guppy Job Offers"......Congrats to those guys for not having to commute right outta the gate.

Cheers
KCCO

CLE, 13
GUM, 21
IAH 737, 171
IAH 756, 106
EWR 737, 96
EWR 756, 149

Also, some junior captains,
GUM 9/05
IAH 737 3/06
EWR 737 6/06
EWR 756 7/05

Nah, lots of movement for us in the near future :D

Airline looks properly staffed for the summer..............:D

Lee

Thanks for posting!

Need to add about 10 more smiling faces. Wait until March and 49 of the new contract rules take effect, most being on the sCAL side.

Two questions:

1. Is it fair to assume that many of the 756 openings are due to the Contract requirement for an IRO for international? Example would be EWR-DUB now requires 3 pilots?

2. How far out do the openings project forward? End of year or to a certain time in 2013.

Thanks.. Still hoping for a call someday

This bid was for 2/14 ie everybody should be where they are by the end of Feb, 2014. Looking at PBS lines awarded for this month, there were only 13 guys on reserve in IAH on the 75...this leads to either very efficient scheduling, LUCK, or a lot of JR manning.

UAL on both sides is very understaffed and WAY WAY WAY behind the power curve as far as hiring. IMHO even if the CAL side filled all these unfilled FO vacancies tomorrow, they'd still not have enough to fight the new FAA and contract rules. They'll also be losing UAL retreads that go back to the UAL side from our recall, but honestly, unless those guys are volunteer furloughs that want to go back to the 74 or 77 or CAP, they can hold a better line and bigger aircraft at the CAL side than going back to the POS...I mean BUS at UAL.

So the long and short of it is that UAL is in big trouble hiring wise and the flood gates are gonna have to open very soon. We all want you here just as bad, if not more so than you want to be here! Good luck and don't give up!!

Same pay as the guppy and the trips suck, no wonder.

KC- Thank you for the solid insight! I am not giving up and hoping that somehow I can be lucky enough for a call whenever the hiring starts.

Here is my assumption based on limited knowledge and trying to stay positive for all interested parties:

-SLI is on course but might take a bit longer than thought delaying into summer 13 for final award and decision.
-L-UAL pilots waiting to take recalls on UAL pilot list
-CAL will have to hire off the street in 2nd Q 2013 and not 4th Q as reported on the forum here.
-to dumb it down a bit the planning by UAL/CAL to not have to hire off the street until 4th Q might backfire and the hiring might occur sooner rather than later as classes in March-until SLI award might not be filled by all L-UAL furloughs
-L-UAL pilots have until 2018 to come back to the property and will elect to return or not return based upon own need.

Not trying to speculate too much but I just don't see CAL being able to count on filling slots until the above happens.

IADBLRJ41, can I assume from your screenname you were at ACA? There's a ton of us at CAL/UAL. Track us down on ipilots.org and hit up the guys you've flown with for a LOR. That should improve your odds a bit. I wasn't ever on the -41 or I'd help you.

IAH 737 FO bid awards
 

I am having trouble understanding something and was wondering if someone could straighten me out. I notice that there are only 452 IAH 737 FO spots posted. Looking at PBS, there are currently 671 IAH 737 FO's. Are there like 300 vacancies that have gone unfilled in this BES, or does this mean some of the flying is getting moved out of houston or to another fleet (airbus??). I'm having a hard time getting an idea of where this puts me as I am basically the same percentage in base that I am now if there are only going to be 452 IAH 737 Fo's. I suspect this isn't right and there are several hundred vacancies that have gone unfilled. What have I missed?

Grab the award page.. ok at the top of each category are a series of numbers x (y) z. X is awarded positions. Y is pilots awarded positions after accounting for leaves and management. Z is total positions needed. Y may be larger than either x or z. If z is larger than x they need to hire the difference.

Ok, I see that now. It's weird, I'd be more senior on the 756 by about 10%. I guess we're losing most of the 767 flying out of Houston though and some of the 2 pilot 757 flying looks like hard work.

Question.

If awarded 75/76 EWR. how long would it take to be 75/76 IAH?
not just on paper, but actually flying out of there.

do you have to wait until next system bid?
this one that just came out is for 2014.

so you could get it on paper on next bid 6 months from now, and not actually move until second half of 2014?

or if they have openings there in next few months, can you put it on a monthly standing bid, and be over there by this summer. or would those openings go to new hires this summer?

thanks.

It depends on SLI and when it happens. If it takes awhile, you would either have to wait until next system bid and ask for earliest advance (for this last system bid the earliest move is April) or do a base trade with someone in Houston for Newark, which you can post immediately in the CPO office.

Otherwise, if the SLI happens before the next system bid, we're moving to vacancy bidding which is monthly by my understanding.

Thought I read L-cal was going to vacancy bidding prior to SLI... Where does it say otherwise?

At which point if you do not have a training or advancement date for this system bid, then your award is canceled and you will bid for any vacancies in your current position. Example, if you are currently a EWR 756 FO who held EWR 777 FO on this bid, but you do not have a training class date by the first vacancy bid after SLI then you are going to be a 756 FO bidding for your next position as if you were never awarded EWR 777 FO.

AllIn,
Until the SLI, these are some of your options to get to IAH,
1. Submit a base trade with IAH pilot that wants to go to EWR.Under the old contract there was a 30 day waiting period before it was effective. I know the base trade blocking has been changed but I'm not sure about the wait time.

2. If you are holding EWR 756, you will have to wait until the next bid to bid IAH. It shouldn't be a problem as right now there are a ton of open spots in IAH for the 756 (FO). The company will base adva de you to IAH when they need you (provided it is before the effective date of the bid).

3. Request a hardship. If approved you will be placed at the bottom of the IAH list regardless of seniority.

Good luck.

Do they have to begin training or just have a training date? What constitutes training? What it's an advancement date? Sorry for all the questions, just curious. Thx.

Pretty sure its training date.
It was in the notes of the original system bid bulletin

Not sure i understand..
If you were awarded 756 ewr but want iah, why didn t you bid 756 iah?

They need a training date. Training dates for Dec are usually handed out jun-jul. SlI is forecast to be done in September. Most of the CAL bid should have dates by then.