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Old 02-27-2013, 07:34 PM   #1  
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So, IF I got an interview, hired, etc., my understanding is that there will be hiring into 737/756 EWR and 737/756 IAH and Guam. As for me, I live about 3 hours from IAH, and Im big on quality of life and time at home. Eventually, I think I would move closer to a base, but Id wait to see how the L-UAL bases went as far as seniority, so I could probably expect to commute the first few years. Considering that:

Is there a commuting policy?

Is EWR or IAH junior?

Where are new hires going to be placed if there are vacancies in multiple bases (is there a drop in each class)? How is seniority determined among new hires?

How quickly can you bid different bases/equipment after your new hire class? How about Guam?

Is there a long and short call reserve? How does reserve compare on the 737 v. 756 in IAH?

How long would it take to get a line, and which airplane would you bid to maximize the time spent away from home?

How do junior lines compare on the 737IAH and 756IAH?

Thanks much!
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Is there a commuting policy?
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Is EWR or IAH junior?
Yes.

Based on the last sCAL and sUAL equipment bids, those were the two bases with unfilled vacancies.
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Where are new hires going to be placed if there are vacancies in multiple bases (is there a ‘drop’ in each class)?
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How is seniority determined among new hires?
sCAL uses age, sUAL uses last four of SS number (lower is better). I'd suspect that this is one of the issues currently being worked on by the joint hiring committee so it may (or may not) change.
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How quickly can you bid different bases/equipment after your new hire class? How about Guam?
It depends on the tempo of vacancy bids. You can always make a "lateral" on the same equipment to a different base but the equipment freeze is currently two years.

Guam is a toss-up. Now that there is a $3k/mo. override all Guam vacancies were filled on the last sCAL system bid but the most junior FO was still fairly junior.
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Is there a long and short call reserve? How does reserve compare on the 737 v. 756 in IAH?
Long and short call. Looking at the equipment bids and monthly schedule awards, it would appear to be a toss-up. The 737 is a MUCH larger base so there are considerably more trips to choose from and for PBS to build schedules.
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How long would it take to get a line, and which airplane would you bid to maximize the time spent away from home?
It all depends. If current hiring expectations (based on retirements and more international flying) continues there could be quick movement (perhaps months, or at least under a year, to line holder). If UCH stagnates or shrinks...then longer. It's the usual game.

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Did you really ask that question on the Major Airline section, is there a commuting policy? Seriously...is EWR Jr....
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Can someone 'splain the jcba regarding RSV...

I heard someone say that everyone is long call (12 hours), but you can be moved to short call (4hours) up to a maximum of 5 times a month.

Sound about right? More details? Thanks.
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20-K Scheduling of Reserve Crews

20-K-1 General

20-K-1-a A Reserve begins each period of reserve days as a Long Call reserve unless he is awarded a pure Short Call line, is assigned to Short Call Reserve or Field Standby, or picks up a Short Call or Field Standby assignment.

20-K-1-b During a period of reserve days, the Company may release, or schedule to release, a Reserve into an Off-Duty Period of predetermined length.

20-K-1-c Silos.

Reserves shall be grouped in silos according to their remaining number of days available for reserve assignment before their next scheduled unavailable days. Reserves with six (6) or more such days of availability shall be grouped in the same silo.

20-K-1-d After blocking in at the termination of a Trip, a Reserve must check to see if he has been given an assignment or reassignment in accordance with Section 20-I-6-h (Reserve Additional Flying Provisions).

20-K-1-e A Reserve who is on his last day of sick leave and who has reserve availability on the next day shall be scheduled like a Reserve on his last day off.

20-K-2 Assignment List

20-K-2-a The assignment list for a given silo shall be sorted in first-in first-out (“FIFO”) order, based on the release time of the Reserve's last assignment.

20-K-2-b A Reserve beginning a period of reserve days shall take a position on his silo's assignment list behind Reserves already on the list. If more than one Reserve is beginning a period of reserve days, their relative position on the assignment list shall be determined by their release time after their last assignment.

20-K-2-c If unused, a Short Call Reserve enters the list in FIFO order based on the time his window ended (or the time of his early release, if applicable). If his Short Call window spans two (2) days and if he returns to the assignment list, he shall be behind Reserves who are starting their period of reserve days on that second (2nd) day.

20-K-2-d When a Pilot transitions from Lineholder to Reserve, he shall, for the purpose of determining his position on the assignment list, be considered to have arrived exactly at the beginning of the first day of the Bid Period. If more than one Pilot is making the same transition, their relative position on the assignment list shall be determined by their release time after their last assignment.

20-K-2-e In the event a Reserve deadheads to his Base on a Trip being flown by another Reserve from the same Base who has the same number of days available, the deadheading Reserve shall be positioned on the assignment list ahead of the Reserve flying the Trip.

20-K-2-f A Reserve whose Trip is picked up by a Lineholder or I/E enters the list in FIFO order based on the time the Trip is picked up. A Reserve whose Trip is FBO'd enters the list in FIFO order based on the time the Trip is FBO'd.

20-K-3 Making Reserve Assignments

20-K-3-a Type of Reserve Receiving the Assignment

In accordance with Section 20-I-6, the Company shall decide whether the assignment shall be made to a Long-Call reserve, a Short-Call reserve or a Field Standby.

20-K-3-b Silo Selection

20-K-3-b-(1) A Trip shall be assigned to a Reserve whose silo matches the length of the Trip.

20-K-3-b-(2) If a Trip cannot be assigned to a Reserve whose silo matches the length of the Trip, it shall be assigned to a Reserve from the next highest silo that contains an available Reserve.

20-K-3-b-(3) If a Trip cannot be assigned without disruption of days off, it shall be assigned to a Reserve who requires the fewest number of disrupted days off.

20-K-3-c Assignment Rules

20-K-3-c-(1) A reserve assignment shall not begin on a scheduled day off, unless the day off is a VDO.

20-K-3-c-(2) If more than one Short Call Reserve is in the same silo, a Trip that does not require schedule disruption shall be assigned to the Short Call Reserve with the earliest Short Call start time.

20-K-3-c-(3) If more than one Short Call Reserve has the same schedule disruption, a Trip that requires schedule disruption shall be assigned to the Short Call Reserve with the earliest Short Call start time.

20-K-3-c-(4) If a Reserve is a Lineholder in the next Bid Period and his last period of reserve days includes the last day of the Bid Period, he may be assigned a Trip that operates into the next Bid Period in accordance with Section 20-K-3-b-(3) .

20-K-3-c-(5) Days off shall not be disrupted to make a Short Call or Field Standby assignment, unless the day off is a VDO.

20-K-3-c-(6) Without his concurrence, a Reserve can start only one Short Call or Field Standby assignment per day, except that a Short Call Reserve may be assigned to Field Standby that starts on the same day provided he does not receive an intervening Off-Duty Period.

20-K-3-c-(7) Notwithstanding Section 20-K-2, when the Company is making an out-of-silo assignment, if any Reserve in that silo has submitted an aggressive pick-up request in accordance with Section 20-K-8-c, the assignment shall be given to the Reserve whose request has the earliest submission time.

20-K-3-c-(8) A Reserve shall not be given a new assignment before he blocks in from a Trip or is released from an assignment that is not a Trip.

20-K-3-c-(9) Following jury duty, ALPA business, Company business, or military leave, assignments shall not be made and entered in the Pilot's schedule earlier than 0100, unless the Pilot concurs otherwise.

20-K-3-c-(10) On the day following his vacation, leave or training of five (5) days or more, without his concurrence a Reserve shall not be required to depart from his Base prior to 0600.

20-K-3-c-(11) A Reserve returning on a Trip whose last segment is scheduled to arrive at his Base from 0045 to 0600 shall not be assigned to another Trip whose last segment is scheduled to arrive at this Base from 0045 to 0600 the following calendar day, without his concurrence.

20-K-3-c-(12) A Reserve who requires consolidation or is within thirty (30) days of loss of currency may be given a Trip that is available for assignment out of assignment order.

20-K-3-d Reserve Bypass.

20-K-3-d-(1) The Company may bypass a Reserve for assignment if his reserve days are followed by a CDO(s).

20-K-3-d-(2) When making an assignment from a silo's assignment list or in accordance with Section 20-K-3-b-(3), the following Reserves shall be bypassed. However, if the assignment remains uncovered after bypass it may be assigned to such Reserves; if so, it shall be covered in the following order:

20-K-3-d-(2)-(a) Reserves who are Lineholders in the subsequent Bid Period, when making an assignment that extends into that subsequent Bid Period.

20-K-3-d-(2)-(b) Reserves who are Lineholders in the subsequent Bid Period, when making an assignment that shall result in a schedule repair in that subsequent Bid Period; and Reserves who are a Reserve in the subsequent Bid Period, when making an assignment that shall result in disrupting days off in that subsequent Bid Period.

20-K-3-d-(2)-(c) Reserves with two (2) or more unused Short Call and/or Field Standby assignments in the Bid Period, when making a Short Call or Field Standby assignment, provided there are other Reserves available who have had fewer unused Short Call windows and/or Field Standby assignments in the Bid Period.

20-K-3-d-(2)-(d) Reserves who have not waived the limits in Section 5-B-2-c-(3) and whose sum of Flying Hours and Nonflying Hours, as described in Section 5-B-2-c, exceeds eighty-five (85) hours, when making a Short Call assignment.

20-K-4 After a Reserve Assignment is Made

20-K-4-a When a Reserve verifies a Trip assignment, in accordance with Section 5-E-2-a, he shall be released to the Trip and may not be given any additional duty or Short Call prior to the start of that Trip, unless he has a previously-scheduled duty or Short Call or he waives this provision.

20-K-4-b A Reserve who has been released to an assignment shall not be required to answer his phone. Additionally, during a Reserve's FAR rest period prior to the assignment to which he has been released, the Company shall not call him unless no other Reserve is available for the assignment being covered. A Reserve shall not be required to accept any assignment offered during his FAR rest period.

20-K-4-c A Trip on a Reserve's schedule is available for Lineholder pickup unless the Reserve has designated the Trip as unavailable for Lineholder pick-up.

20-K-4-c-(1) The Reserve may make the designation at any time prior to fifteen (15) hours before the report time of the Trip. Once made, the designation cannot be reversed.

20-K-4-c-(2) If the Reserve was assigned the Trip for currency, consolidation, training, checking, or similar reason, the Company may designate the Trip as unavailable for Lineholder pick-up.

20-K-4-c-(3) An in-Base Lineholder may pick up an available Trip at any time prior to fifteen (15) hours before the report time of the Trip. An out-of-Base Lineholder or an I/E may pick up an available Trip after 1300 on the day prior to the Trip's report time and prior to fifteen (15) hours before the report time of the Trip.

20-K-4-c-(4) A Reserve who has not designated a Trip as unavailable for Lineholder pick-up must check his schedule fifteen (15) hours before the report time of the Trip to determine if the Trip remains on his schedule.

20-K-4-c-(5) A Reserve whose Trip is picked up by a Lineholder shall return to Long Call status.

20-K-4-d A Reserve who has been assigned a Trip may be removed at any time prior to three (3) hours before the scheduled Departure of the Trip for the assignment of a Pilot under the provisions of Section 20-F-1.

20-K-4-e With his concurrence, a Reserve may be removed from a Trip.

20-K-5 Long Call Reserve

20-K-5-a For a Trip assignment, a Long Call Reserve must be assigned the Trip with a minimum of thirteen (13) hours notice prior to scheduled Departure time. A Pilot may waive this provision.

20-K-5-b A Long Call Reserve must be phone available twenty-four (24) hours a day on his Reserve days until given an assignment.

20-K-5-c A Long Call Reserve is released at 1000 on his last day of reserve if the next day is an RDO, HDO or VDO and at 1500 on his last day of reserve if the next day is an FDO or CDO, provided no assignment has been made by those times.

20-K-6 Short Call Reserve

20-K-6-a A Short Call assignment is a single period of availability that may not exceed fourteen (14) hours.

20-K-6-b The Company shall determine the start time for all Short Call assignments.

20-K-6-c Short Call assignments shall be built for a designated silo. If the assignment cannot be made in the designated silo, the Company may move up to the next silo.

20-K-6-d Ten (10) hours notice is required prior to the start of a Short Call assignment, if the Short Call assignment is given to a Reserve from 0000 to 1759. Twelve (12) hours notice is required prior to the start of a Short Call assignment, if the Short Call assignment is given to a Reserve from 1800 to 2359. A Reserve may waive these requirements.

20-K-6-e When a Reserve is assigned to Short Call, he is released until beginning the Short Call assignment. The Company may attempt to contact the Pilot in order to assign him a Trip, including one (1) attempt during an FAR rest period, but the Pilot is not required to answer and may refuse the Trip until his Short Call assignment begins. If the Trip is assigned, the Pilot's FAR rest period may be reset.

20-K-6-f A Short Call Reserve who is given an assignment that requires an intervening FAR rest period does not require the minimum notification requirements of a Long Call Reserve or a contractual Off-Duty Period.

20-K-6-f-(1) Example: A Short Call Reserve whose assignment begins at 0700 and ends at 2100 may be released from the assignment at 2000 and given an assignment that begins at 0600 the next day.

20-K-6-f-(2) Example: A Short Call Reserve whose assignment begins at 0300 and ends at 1700 may be released from the assignment at 1300 and given a flying assignment that reports at 2300.

20-K-6-f-(3) Example: A Short Call Reserve whose assignment begins at 0600 and ends at 2000 may be released from the assignment at 0700 and given a flying assignment that reports at 1700.

20-K-6-g If unused, a Short Call Reserve reverts back to Long Call.

20-K-6-h A Short Call Reserve shall be released at 1500 on his last day of reserve, unless by that time he has either received an assignment or been notified to complete his Short Call.

20-K-6-i The Company may offer lines consisting of a Short Call assignment on each work day. These pure Short Call lines shall be awarded in seniority order only to those Reserves who have requested one.

20-K-7 Last Day Off Prior to Reserve Days

20-K-7-a On the day following his day(s) off, a Reserve shall not be required to depart from his Base prior to 0700 except that such time shall instead be:

20-K-7-a-(1) 0600, if the Pilot was released from being available for assignment at or before 1500 on the day preceding his scheduled day(s) off; or

20-K-7-a-(2) 0800, if the Pilot was scheduled to be released from 0001 to 0059 on the day preceding his scheduled day(s) off.

20-K-7-a-(3) A Pilot may waive the restrictions in this Section 20-K-7-a.

20-K-7-b Assignments made from 1300 to 1459 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule. The Company is not required to notify the Pilot.

20-K-7-c Assignments made from 1500 to 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:

20-K-7-c-(1) report prior to 0900, for a Trip or Field Standby assignment; or

20-K-7-c-(2) begin earlier than 0900, for a Short Call assignment.

20-K-7-c-(3) A Pilot may waive these provisions.

20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:

20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or

20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or

20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment.

20-K-7-d-(4) A Pilot may waive these provisions.

20-K-7-e A Reserve on his last day off must check his schedule and/or messages sometime from 1800 to 0059 on his last day off. He must acknowledge any assignment entered before 1800 by 0059 on his last day off.

20-K-7-f For the purposes of this Section 20-K-7, a "day off" is any day other than a day "worked" (i.e., a "day worked" includes: flight duty, reserve, reserve assignment, training duty, special assignment, other flight duties for which compensation is paid). Additionally, for the purposes of this Section 20-K-7, a day of jury duty, ALPA business, Company business, or military leave is not considered a “day off”.

20-K-8 Aggressive Pick-Up

A Reserve may pick-up an assignment on a first-come first-served basis pursuant to the following provisions:

20-K-8-a An open assignment shall be available for pick-up starting at 1100 the day prior to the scheduled report time of the Trip, the scheduled report time of a Field Standby assignment or the scheduled start time of a Short Call assignment.

20-K-8-b A Reserve may pick up an assignment that has the same number of days, or the same number minus one (1), as the number of reserve days he has before his next scheduled unavailable days. For purposes of Section 20-K-8-b, the current day is not counted as a reserve day, except before 1500 for a Reserve on Long Call.

20-K-8-c A Reserve may submit an aggressive pick-up request for one or more assignments that he cannot otherwise pick up under Section 20-K-8-b. The Company may enable an assignment to be aggressively picked up by Reserves from a particular silo. If it does so, the assignment shall be awarded to the Reserve in that silo with the earliest request submission time.

20-K-8-d A Reserve who is not on Short Call may aggressively pick up an assignment while on an assignment. If he subsequently is projected to require a schedule repair, the Company may remove the assignment from his schedule, if doing so removes the need for the schedule repair.

20-K-8-e A Short Call Reserve may aggressively pick up an assignment that reports or starts on the day following the day on which his current Short Call assignment begins, provided the report or start time of the assignment is at least ten (10) hours from the end of the Reserve's current Short Call assignment. A Short Call Reserve may not aggressively pick up an assignment that reports or starts on the same day that his current Short Call assignment begins. The Company may, at its option, modify the end time of the Short Call assignment to allow an aggressive pickup that would otherwise not be allowed.

20-K-8-f If a Short Call Reserve aggressively picks up a Trip for the following day, he must remain telephone available for the duration of the current Short Call assignment with the understanding that flying may be assigned that creates a situation where the aggressively picked up Trip is removed.

20-K-8-g If a Reserve aggressively picks up an assignment from 0100 to 1500 in a period of reserve days that is followed by an FDO, the following shall apply:

20-K-8-g-(1) The Reserve shall not be released to the assignment until:

20-K-8-g-(1)-(a) 1500, if the assignment reports or starts on the following day; or

20-K-8-g-(1)-(b) the time at which the required FAR rest period for the assignment begins, if the assignment reports or starts on the same day.

20-K-8-g-(2) The assignment may be removed provided that:

20-K-8-g-(2)-(a) The Reserve is assigned a substitute assignment before he is released in accordance with Section 20-K-8-g-(1); and

20-K-8-g-(2)-(b) The substitute assignment is a Basic Trip that ends on the FDO; and

20-K-8-g-(2)-(c) There are no Reserves available for the substitute assignment who would not require disruption of a day off; and

20-K-8-g-(2)-(d) If the removed assignment has a higher pay value than the substitute assignment, he shall receive the pay value of the removed assignment.

20-K-8-h A Reserve whose period of reserve days is followed by a CDO is not eligible to aggressively pick-up an assignment for such period. However, from 1100 to 1300 he may conditionally claim one or more assignments of any length. The Company may remove a claim for any reason. At 1500, an assignment with a claim shall be awarded to the Reserve who made the earliest claim.

20-K-9 Notification of Reserve Assignments

20-K-9-a The Company shall notify a Reserve at the time of assignment, except as follows:

20-K-9-a-(1) A Reserve who receives an assignment under Section 20-I-6-d need not be notified.

20-K-9-a-(2) If the notification would otherwise occur from 2300 to 0659, the following shall apply:

20-K-9-a-(2)-(a) If the Trip became available for assignment twenty-four (24) hours before the scheduled Departure time of the Trip, a Reserve shall not be notified of the assignment until 0700.

20-K-9-a-(2)-(b) If the Trip became available for assignment from twenty-four (24) hours to thirteen (13) hours before the scheduled Departure time of the Trip, a Reserve shall be notified no sooner than fifteen (15) hours before the scheduled Departure time of the Trip or at 0700, whichever is earlier.

20-K-9-a-(2)-(c) If the Trip became available for assignment less than thirteen (13) hours before the scheduled Departure time of the Trip, a Short-Call Reserve shall be notified so as to provide him with enough time to comply with the call-out time specified in Section 20-A-4 or at 0700, whichever is earlier, unless waiting to make the assignment would cause the Reserve to become unavailable for the assignment.

20-K-9-b If a Reserve prefers to not be contacted from 0100 to 0659 he may notify the Company of this preference. This notification must be made before the applicable Bid Period begins. Once selected, this option shall remain selected until changed by the Reserve. If this option is selected, the application of Section 20-K-9-a shall be modified as follows:

20-K-9-b-(1) If the Company would otherwise contact the Reserve from 0100 to 0659 in order to make an assignment or reset the Reserve's FAR rest period, that telephone call shall be delayed to the maximum reasonable extent, without jeopardizing callout notification or the ability to give him the assignment or to reset his FAR rest period.

20-K-9-b-(1)-(a) If the purpose of the call is to provide or reset the Reserve's FAR rest period, then the call shall be made eleven (11) to twelve (12) hours before report time or at 0700 (or as soon thereafter as feasible), whichever is earlier. Waiting until eleven (11) hours prior to report time is desirable, but the call may be made as early as twelve (12) hours prior to report time, at Company discretion to accommodate workload issues.

20-K-9-b-(1)-(b) If the purpose of the call is to assign a Trip or Field Standby to a Reserve on Short Call, and no rest reset is possible (because it is already within ten (10) hours of report time), then the call shall be delayed until necessary to provide the Reserve with enough time to comply with the call-out time specified in Section 20-A-4 or at 0700 (or as soon thereafter as feasible), whichever is earlier.

20-K-9-b-(2) If a Short-Call Reserve has selected this option, the Company shall attempt to contact him once during his FAR rest period under the following conditions:

20-K-9-b-(2)-(a) An assignment has already been placed into his schedule, and

20-K-9-b-(2)-(b) The call negates the need to contact the Reserve from 2300 to 0659, and

20-K-9-b-(2)-(c) The call is attempted from 1200 to 2259.

20-K-9-b-(2)-(d) If all of the above conditions are met, the Company shall inform the Reserve via telephone or voicemail that they are attempting a courtesy call to inform him of an assignment that has been placed on his schedule. The Reserve is under no obligation to answer the call or acknowledge the assignment while in his FAR rest period. If the Reserve does not acknowledge the assignment, the Company shall follow the contact procedures outlined in Section 20-K-9-a.

5-F-5 Reserve Minimum Days Off

5-F-5-a The reserve minimum days off provisions specified in Section 5-E-5 shall apply to this Section 5-F.

5-F-5-b A Reserve who is reassigned into a day or days off shall have that day or days off restored, except that with concurrence between the Company and the Reserve, he may receive four (4) hours of Add Pay in lieu of restoration of one (1) day off.

5-F-5-c In the Actual Operation, if a Reserve flies into a day or days off, he must notify the Company prior to Trip release of his intent to remain on reserve for that day in order to have that day off restored. With concurrence between the Company and the Reserve, he may receive four (4) hours of Add Pay in lieu of restoration of that day off.

5-F-5-d A Reserve may only receive Add Pay in lieu of restoration under Sections 5-F-5-b and 5-F-5-c for a combined one (1) day per Bid Period.

5-F-5-e To restore a Reserve's day off, his next reserve day shall be converted to a day off. If the Pilot has no reserve days remaining in the Bid Period, the day off shall be restored in the next Bid Period in which the Pilot has either a reserve day or if a Lineholder, at least two (2) potential restoration choices. If the Pilot is a Reserve in that next Bid Period, his first reserve day shall be converted to a day off. If the Pilot is a Lineholder in that next Bid Period, he shall follow the Lineholder restoration process in Section 5-F-4-b.
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Best of luck getting an interview/hired if you do not know a pilot there able to personally answer these questions for you.
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Did you really ask that question on the Major Airline section, is there a commuting policy?
Yup... but I'm just some dumb heavy pilot. Sorry, sir. What might the commuting policy be at the new United? Cheese and rice, smile much?


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Seriously...is EWR Jr....
You're correct... I should have asked 'which' one is currently going junior, EWR or IAH... Perhaps it was inferred; that of the two I listed - EWR and IAH - each with multiple openings... oh, why bother.

Dude, I bet you're a blast on a trip. You just cemented the sterotype the rest of the world has about certain F-15 guys on a public forum. Shouldn't you be yelling "slide" to some poor slob at Northern Edge or Red Flag, or doing something unspeakable with a crew chief in Kadena?

To everyone else, I appreciate the responses.
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Best of luck getting an interview/hired if you do not know a pilot there able to personally answer these questions for you.
Or, maybe it could facilitate a discussion on a 'forum' so that those who don't know someone to personally answer 'these questions' might learn something. Thanks though.

What's up with the hate and discontent? Cheers mate.
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Yo Chedd,

Stick around. The nimrods eventually get tired of being so knowledgeable and split. Sometimes they just can't take snappy rejoinders so keep them coming. I love it.

Besides, its cocktail hour.
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