Turns out CAL is the surviving company
04-08-2013, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Don't know Dexium but if that's what you guys call people that oppose pierce - So be it! He's responsible for the bad contract we have and hopefully his ego will show during SLI. Question - what has jay done for the cal pilots that you're proud of?
"Let's Go Jay"
"Let's Go Jay"
Make sure it says "let's go Jay's". Your own idiot sold u out!
04-08-2013, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
I agree, it has nothing to do with SLI, just as how much stock was contributed from each company into United Continental Holdings also has nothing to do with SLI, yet I'm sure that will come up during presentations.
I'd bet that either side using that argument will likely appear less than honest and grasping at straws. Likely perceived to support positions in the SLI that have little or no support.
I think the advantage cal had as being the underdog has faded and less likely to get that sympathy support from arbitrators. Going two be interesting.
04-08-2013, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thor2j
Make sure it says "let's go Jay's". Your own idiot sold u out!
Don't know where that come from but I'm firmly on the UAL side. With the position we are in, I have very little respect for either Jay.
We ended up with a contract far below what the UAL side had. I can say that pierce choose to work on SLI during contract negotiation and heppner tried to negotiate to stop pierce from delaying contract. I think there's enough proof/evidence to show pierce worked with Jeff and abbot to do a EAL move to go around the UAL pilots. Maybe the arbitrator will get wind of that.
04-08-2013, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Don't know where that come from but I'm firmly on the UAL side. With the position we are in, I have very little respect for either Jay.
We ended up with a contract far below what the UAL side had. I can say that pierce choose to work on SLI during contract negotiation and heppner tried to negotiate to stop pierce from delaying contract. I think there's enough proof/evidence to show pierce worked with Jeff and abbot to do a EAL move to go around the UAL pilots. Maybe the arbitrator will get wind of that.
We ended up with a contract far below what the UAL side had. I can say that pierce choose to work on SLI during contract negotiation and heppner tried to negotiate to stop pierce from delaying contract. I think there's enough proof/evidence to show pierce worked with Jeff and abbot to do a EAL move to go around the UAL pilots. Maybe the arbitrator will get wind of that.
Out of curiosity what was so great about your bankruptcy contract?.
You give way to much credit to what the arbitrators will consider relevant. As many stories as you have on the ual side about pierce doing this and that to screw the other side(not saying they're all true or false) the CaL has many stories about jay H tring to screw and the CaL guys. I would expect that by both of them. I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them. They are both scum as far as I'm concerned.
04-08-2013, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by thor2j
If you think it is "far" below what you had, then why on earth would u vote for such a pos? Using the argument about whipsawing, etc is not worth suffering for 5 years.
Out of curiosity what was so great about your bankruptcy contract?.
You give way to much credit to what the arbitrators will consider relevant. As many stories as you have on the ual side about pierce doing this and that to screw the other side(not saying they're all true or false) the CaL has many stories about jay H tring to screw and the CaL guys. I would expect that by both of them. I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them. They are both scum as far as I'm concerned.
Out of curiosity what was so great about your bankruptcy contract?.
You give way to much credit to what the arbitrators will consider relevant. As many stories as you have on the ual side about pierce doing this and that to screw the other side(not saying they're all true or false) the CaL has many stories about jay H tring to screw and the CaL guys. I would expect that by both of them. I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them. They are both scum as far as I'm concerned.
You guys need to look at what pierce did with an open mind. His misdeeds will shape the direction of the combined groups. He's done damage that will not be fixed with an apology. There will be little harmony with these groups no matter how SLI works out.
04-08-2013, 01:47 PM
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Thor,
After having just read through this thread. Beside wanting to win the biggest Richard Cranium contest why would you even bring this up? It's completely irrelevant with anything to do with SLI or anything else for that matter.
After having just read through this thread. Beside wanting to win the biggest Richard Cranium contest why would you even bring this up? It's completely irrelevant with anything to do with SLI or anything else for that matter.
04-08-2013, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Thor,
After having just read through this thread. Beside wanting to win the biggest Richard Cranium contest why would you even bring this up? It's completely irrelevant with anything to do with SLI or anything else for that matter.
After having just read through this thread. Beside wanting to win the biggest Richard Cranium contest why would you even bring this up? It's completely irrelevant with anything to do with SLI or anything else for that matter.
Interesting, the new united airlines finished last of domestic passengers polled. Wonder why?
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04-08-2013, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Staller
I think the advantage cal had as being the underdog has faded and less likely to get that sympathy support from arbitrators.
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