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APC225 05-29-2013 04:42 PM

Summer 2013. And so it begins.
 
"If you are a B737 Captain in LAX, DEN, ORD, IAH, CLE, or EWR who does a straight pickup after the issuance of this message of a full trip pairing from open time that originates on May 30, 2013 through June 4, 2013, that pickup will be treated as a “Voluntary Junior Manning” (VJM) event and you will be paid at 200% of your normal hourly rate."

It's not so much VJM as much as this is indicative of reserves being abused to the limit before they get to this point, which they are as the summer opens.

Horhay 05-29-2013 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1418045)
"If you are a B737 Captain in LAX, DEN, ORD, IAH, CLE, or EWR who does a straight pickup after the issuance of this message of a full trip pairing from open time that originates on May 30, 2013 through June 4, 2013, that pickup will be treated as a “Voluntary Junior Manning” (VJM) event and you will be paid at 200% of your normal hourly rate."

It's not so much VJM as much as this is indicative of reserves being abused to the limit before they get to this point, which they are as the summer opens.

Was this from the CCS sign-in screen? I'm not seeing it...what was the source of the message?

Cheers,
Horhay

APC225 05-29-2013 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Horhay (Post 1418067)
Was this from the CCS sign-in screen? I'm not seeing it...what was the source of the message?

Cheers,
Horhay

Yes, CCS home screen.

dvhighdrive88 05-30-2013 02:54 AM

Very likely on the Capt side as they are (sigh) short again. On the FO side it's a different picture. Plenty reserves flying well below MPG. Summer might give them opportunity to break that for many from what the rumors are.

voodiloquist 05-30-2013 03:41 AM

And whoring season is open

pilotgolfer 05-30-2013 04:02 AM

It was on the FO side, as well.


Edited...it was not there this morning. It had been there tues/wed.

EWRflyr 05-30-2013 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1418045)
"If you are a B737 Captain in LAX, DEN, ORD, IAH, CLE, or EWR who does a straight pickup after the issuance of this message of a full trip pairing from open time that originates on May 30, 2013 through June 4, 2013, that pickup will be treated as a “Voluntary Junior Manning” (VJM) event and you will be paid at 200% of your normal hourly rate."

It's not so much VJM as much as this is indicative of reserves being abused to the limit before they get to this point, which they are as the summer opens.

Not sure why they don't just change this to read:

"If you are a B737 Captain in IAH who does a straight pickup of any 737 Captain or First Officer trip in any base after the issuance of this message that originates on May 30, 2013, through June 4, 2013, that pickup will be treated as a 'Voluntary Junior Manning' (VJM) event and you will be paid 200% of your normal hourly rate."

The opportunists are still concentrated down in Mecca, aren't they? Then again, I guess the opening of DEN and LAX has spread the 737 Saving Company Again Brotherhood around the system so it has to be offered everywhere. :rolleyes:

Really 05-30-2013 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1418299)
Not sure why they don't just change this to read:

"If you are a B737 Captain in IAH who does a straight pickup of any 737 Captain or First Officer trip in any base after the issuance of this message that originates on May 30, 2013, through June 4, 2013, that pickup will be treated as a 'Voluntary Junior Manning' (VJM) event and you will be paid 200% of your normal hourly rate."

The opportunists are still concentrated down in Mecca, aren't they? Then again, I guess the opening of DEN and LAX has spread the 737 Saving Company Again Brotherhood around the system so it has to be offered everywhere. :rolleyes:

Not sure where you get that it's JUST the people you quoted above? They may be the only one's that come out and publicly tell you about it!! I had a UAL "furloughed" guy tell me that it happened on the other side of the fence during the furlough!! Also had an FO from "Jersey Shore" come down to Mecca to fly a JM trip!! (and he didn't have Snookie with him!!) I've had so many guys from a 747 CA on jumpseat to reserve FO tell me they wish they could fly more! I personally could care less, I like my days off! ( I advertise trips often w/no luck!) Everyone has been offered a recall (I know not to UAL, but same pay or higher and sen. or higher until SLI) and the contract is signed!! I'm not going to get on here and preach the way open time should be handled!! (It's already been contractualized!):confused:

HotPot 05-30-2013 09:59 AM

I do not believe pick up time would be a SCAB move since all involuntary furloughs have been offered a job. IMHO

tailwheel48 05-30-2013 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1418299)
Not sure why they don't just change this to read:

"If you are a B737 Captain in IAH who does a straight pickup of any 737 Captain or First Officer trip in any base after the issuance of this message that originates on May 30, 2013, through June 4, 2013, that pickup will be treated as a 'Voluntary Junior Manning' (VJM) event and you will be paid 200% of your normal hourly rate."

The opportunists are still concentrated down in Mecca, aren't they? Then again, I guess the opening of DEN and LAX has spread the 737 Saving Company Again Brotherhood around the system so it has to be offered everywhere. :rolleyes:

67% of the pilots voted in favor, so they all must be opportunists!


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