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UalHvy 06-15-2013 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 1428124)
Let's hope you don't actually turn off before the 1's.
Dave will try anything once....

Dave Fitzgerald 06-15-2013 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by UalHvy (Post 1429007)
Dave will try anything once....
Summer of love baby! It did get interesting.

dogfood 06-18-2013 08:24 AM
Singapore Airlines ordered 30 787-10 from Boeing, and British Airways inked 12 firm orders for the jumbo jet. United Airlines (UAL) ordered 20.

horrido27 06-18-2013 08:36 AM
UAL ordered 10. The other 10 are a change from previous order~

In total, the current UAL order stands at 65 firm. (30 CAL, 25 LUAL and now 10 N[ew]UAL) Question is, how many are replacement jets, how many are growth?

Motch

cadetdrivr 06-18-2013 08:43 AM
Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 1430196)
UAL ordered 10. The other 10 are a change from previous order~

In total, the current UAL order stands at 65 firm. (30 CAL, 25 LUAL and now 10 N[ew]UAL) Question is, how many are replacement jets, how many are growth?
That's the $64K Question.

On last Friday co-worker Jeff was at financial conference and stated:

"Fleet count to remain flat over next five years"

FWIW, the audio recoding and powerpoint, where there above quote is a verbatim copy of a bullet point, is available on the UCH Investor website.

Is he talking about the ~700 aircraft mainline fleet or the ~1200 aircraft "United/UAX" fleet? Or does is he just saying what he thinks the market wants to hear today knowing full well that the "official position" can change anytime due to market conditions???

Hmmm.....

Boneman 06-18-2013 09:03 AM
Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 1430196)
UAL ordered 10. The other 10 are a change from previous order~

In total, the current UAL order stands at 65 firm. (30 CAL, 25 LUAL and now 10 N[ew]UAL) Question is, how many are replacement jets, how many are growth?

Motch
No growth. We will be down 12 airframes from CY'12 to CY'13. It's a little harder to read the dice going forward, but the lastest word on the street is all bar 14 L-UAL 767-300's will be retired and all bar 16 L-UAL 757-200's are going away. All L-CAL 756's are "keepers." The "replacement" for the L-UAL D757-200's are the 737-900ERs. No replacement on the horizion for the I757-200's. BTW, all L-CAL D757-300's are being modified to "I" standard.

Monkeyfly 06-18-2013 07:41 PM
We started with over 710 planes at the Merger announcement.
Down to 690 by the end of the year.

FYI.
AA - 608 planes active 531 on firm order
US - 346 planes active, 55 on firm order

SpecialTracking 06-19-2013 01:57 AM
Originally Posted by Boneman (Post 1430218)
No growth. We will be down 12 airframes from CY'12 to CY'13. It's a little harder to read the dice going forward, but the lastest word on the street is all bar 14 L-UAL 767-300's will be retired and all bar 16 L-UAL 757-200's are going away. All L-CAL 756's are "keepers." The "replacement" for the L-UAL D757-200's are the 737-900ERs. No replacement on the horizion for the I757-200's. BTW, all L-CAL D757-300's are being modified to "I" standard.
The ual 767-300s are replaced with cal 787s. The LUAL pilots will be fenced off their replacement aircraft? Then you have no fences for the 777s? Alrighty then...back to my padded cell.

oldmako 06-19-2013 07:18 AM
ST,

How about a little Orwell?

"We have now sunk to a depth at which re-statement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men."

or,

"To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle"

LAX Pilot 06-19-2013 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by Boneman (Post 1430218)
No growth. We will be down 12 airframes from CY'12 to CY'13. It's a little harder to read the dice going forward, but the lastest word on the street is all bar 14 L-UAL 767-300's will be retired and all bar 16 L-UAL 757-200's are going away. All L-CAL 756's are "keepers." The "replacement" for the L-UAL D757-200's are the 737-900ERs. No replacement on the horizion for the I757-200's. BTW, all L-CAL D757-300's are being modified to "I" standard.
Doesn't matter what airplanes stay or not, its the UAL routes and passengers being flown by those airplanes.


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