TA Grievance Award
06-24-2013, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by iama570
Any thoughts to why ALPA would request Neutral Block "send back to the parties for consideration of remedy". Seems to me that would just delay a possible award to LUAL pilots.
It's time for that guy to go away - Hold him accountable.
06-24-2013, 08:00 AM
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From what I understand, once the grievance has been decided, in this case in favor of L-UAL, then it is fairly standard to send it back to resolve the grievance. Nothing sinister, and I don't think Pierce would have much to say about it. This grievance is between L-UAL ALPA and the company.
06-24-2013, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
From what I understand, once the grievance has been decided, in this case in favor of L-UAL, then it is fairly standard to send it back to resolve the grievance. Nothing sinister, and I don't think Pierce would have much to say about it. This grievance is between L-UAL ALPA and the company.
Sooner or later you'll get your pennies on the dollar. I assume that the way things go around the campus it will be later.
06-25-2013, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lively
Sooner or later you'll get your pennies on the dollar. I assume that the way things go around the campus it will be later.
-1.3.5 duty rigs (sooner)
-LOA 25 (GONE)
-NO FSB unless IROPS
-4hr RSV call out (again)
-min line guarantee 73
-Fix the crew rest situation
06-25-2013, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
The company settled a $200K dollar grievance for $40M, that is more than pennies on the dollars. I think a "settlement" precedent has been set. This leverage if used wisely could generate some contract improvement that will benefit "ALL". See how is that selfish?
-1.3.5 duty rigs (sooner)
-LOA 25 (GONE)
-NO FSB unless IROPS
-4hr RSV call out (again)
-min line guarantee 73
-Fix the crew rest situation
-1.3.5 duty rigs (sooner)
-LOA 25 (GONE)
-NO FSB unless IROPS
-4hr RSV call out (again)
-min line guarantee 73
-Fix the crew rest situation
06-25-2013, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
No way should this be used to improve the contract. It's should be a straight money award distributed among the UAL pilots. cal guys stole theirs and caused a bad contract to be voted in and should in NO WAY SHARE in this award.
Let ME make it more simple: The above improvements are WORTH more long term than the miserly ONE TIME amount of approx. $5200 per pilot. Capiche!
06-25-2013, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
I did not expect the ME! ME! ME! ME! crowd to see the obvious in the above example. Staller, you are sounding just like the guy you dislike the most, JP himself. Ironic is it not?
Let ME make it more simple: The above improvements are WORTH more long term than the miserly ONE TIME amount of approx. $5200 per pilot. Capiche!
Let ME make it more simple: The above improvements are WORTH more long term than the miserly ONE TIME amount of approx. $5200 per pilot. Capiche!
The highlighted section may be true but are you really that big a boy Scout?
06-25-2013, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
Turn it into a ME thing????? The reason we ended up with the contract we did was because of the actions of the cal pilots. We are still separate pilot groups and any attempt to use this ruling as a means to improve contract over awarding damages to the pilot group will end in lawsuits. Want to guess who'll win?
The highlighted section may be true but are you really that big a boy Scout?
The highlighted section may be true but are you really that big a boy Scout?
06-25-2013, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Staller
The reason we ended up with the contract we did was because of the actions of the cal pilots.
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