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Old 07-03-2013, 07:19 AM
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There were 42 A320 on the books since BK? These A320 are no longer a mistery since they are being CNX in small increments..


By Robert Wall
July 03, 2013 9:41 AM EDT


Airbus SAS’s backlog rose to a record after the No. 2 planemaker booked 241 orders last month, fueled by sales at the week-long Paris Air Show that brought in $129 billion worth of deals for airliners.
The order book grew to 5,109 planes after Airbus handed over 48 jets last month, it said on its website today. The Toulouse, France-based company said it was the first time a planemaker had reached that level of to-be-delivered jets, equal to about seven years of sustained production,
The manufacturer shipped 295 planes in the first six months as it booked 722 net orders after 36 cancellations.
Airbus won deals worth almost $70 billion at the aerospace expo last month, bringing it within its target of 800 orders for the year. Announced commitments, including a pending 135 plane order from European discount carrier EasyJet Plc (EZJ), and the purchase of 20 A380 superjumbos by Doric Asset Finance Ltd., bring Airbus to about 1,000 orders this year.
Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA)’s firmed up a previously announced deal for 100 A320 single-aisle jets in the largest transaction last month, leaving the airline to still finalize terms for two additional A380s it has committed to buying.
Airlines bought 65 A350s after the plane completed its first flight on June 14. Deals included 30 A350-900s, the model that flew, from Singapore Airlines Ltd. (SIA) and another 25 from Air France-KLM (AF), Europe’s largest airline, with United Airlines (UAL) signing for 10 larger version -1000s. United also canceled orders for 11 A320 short-haul planes.
To contact the reporter on this story: Robert Wall in London at [email protected]
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There were 42 A320 on the books since BK? These A320 are no longer a mistery since they are being CNX in small increments..


By Robert Wall
July 03, 2013 9:41 AM EDT


Airbus SAS’s backlog rose to a record after the No. 2 planemaker booked 241 orders last month, fueled by sales at the week-long Paris Air Show that brought in $129 billion worth of deals for airliners.
The order book grew to 5,109 planes after Airbus handed over 48 jets last month, it said on its website today. The Toulouse, France-based company said it was the first time a planemaker had reached that level of to-be-delivered jets, equal to about seven years of sustained production,
The manufacturer shipped 295 planes in the first six months as it booked 722 net orders after 36 cancellations.
Airbus won deals worth almost $70 billion at the aerospace expo last month, bringing it within its target of 800 orders for the year. Announced commitments, including a pending 135 plane order from European discount carrier EasyJet Plc (EZJ), and the purchase of 20 A380 superjumbos by Doric Asset Finance Ltd., bring Airbus to about 1,000 orders this year.
Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA)’s firmed up a previously announced deal for 100 A320 single-aisle jets in the largest transaction last month, leaving the airline to still finalize terms for two additional A380s it has committed to buying.
Airlines bought 65 A350s after the plane completed its first flight on June 14. Deals included 30 A350-900s, the model that flew, from Singapore Airlines Ltd. (SIA) and another 25 from Air France-KLM (AF), Europe’s largest airline, with United Airlines (UAL) signing for 10 larger version -1000s. United also canceled orders for 11 A320 short-haul planes.
To contact the reporter on this story: Robert Wall in London at [email protected]
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Benedikt Kammel at [email protected]
Probably downsizing for the merger.
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CleCapt View Post
Probably downsizing for the merger.
NOPE this article is from today and the Merger happened 3 years ago. MAD May 2010 and MCD October 2010!
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CleCapt View Post
Probably downsizing for the merger.
Then we are all seriously in trouble considering that sCAL has also cancelled orders since the UAL merger was announced in 2010.

For some odd reason, once the merger was announced UAL didn't need narrow-bodies and CAL didn't need more jumbos. Weird, huh?
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It was an attempt at humor by CleCapt, I get that. Lets not let this deteriorate into another silly SLI argument. Ok just one more attempt at humor:
The true MAD date should really be August 2013, cause after that date we will all be MAD!
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It must be another conspiracy, orchestrated by Jay Pierce.
Call your buddy Edward Snowden. I'm sure he could fill you in.
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If the government has nothing to hide, then why is it afraid to answer a few questions. LiesLiesLies

thread drift here...
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11 A320s = X A350s?
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Originally Posted by LeeMat View Post
There were 42 A320 on the books since BK? These A320 are no longer a mistery since they are being CNX in small increments..


By Robert Wall
July 03, 2013 9:41 AM EDT


Airbus SAS’s backlog rose to a record after the No. 2 planemaker booked 241 orders last month, fueled by sales at the week-long Paris Air Show that brought in $129 billion worth of deals for airliners.
The order book grew to 5,109 planes after Airbus handed over 48 jets last month, it said on its website today. The Toulouse, France-based company said it was the first time a planemaker had reached that level of to-be-delivered jets, equal to about seven years of sustained production,
The manufacturer shipped 295 planes in the first six months as it booked 722 net orders after 36 cancellations.
Airbus won deals worth almost $70 billion at the aerospace expo last month, bringing it within its target of 800 orders for the year. Announced commitments, including a pending 135 plane order from European discount carrier EasyJet Plc (EZJ), and the purchase of 20 A380 superjumbos by Doric Asset Finance Ltd., bring Airbus to about 1,000 orders this year.
Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA)’s firmed up a previously announced deal for 100 A320 single-aisle jets in the largest transaction last month, leaving the airline to still finalize terms for two additional A380s it has committed to buying.
Airlines bought 65 A350s after the plane completed its first flight on June 14. Deals included 30 A350-900s, the model that flew, from Singapore Airlines Ltd. (SIA) and another 25 from Air France-KLM (AF), Europe’s largest airline, with United Airlines (UAL) signing for 10 larger version -1000s. United also canceled orders for 11 A320 short-haul planes.
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I find it rather ironic that UAL had these A320 orders with deposits made on the books for a substantial number of years until the CAL merger. Could it be that these A320's were held in the event of a USAirways merger to replace the UA NB fleet (Classic 737's) but was not necessary since CAL had many 737's already ordered (but ironically really had no way to pay for all of them)?
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Originally Posted by boxer6 View Post
I find it rather ironic that UAL had these A320 orders with deposits made on the books for a substantial number of years until the CAL merger. Could it be that these A320's were held in the event of a USAirways merger to replace the UA NB fleet (Classic 737's) but was not necessary since CAL had many 737's already ordered (but ironically really had no way to pay for all of them)?
Probably. One of the expert witnesses even said that Tilton didn't know if it would be USAir or CAL, so they didn't want to commit to one or the other type until they knew.
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