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Originally Posted by untied (Post 1959475)

What if ALPA loses one of the remaining lawsuits? Do they expect to pay for their mistake with OUR money?Are we supposed to be docked pay because ALPA made an error?

If you're talking about ALPA National, I don't think it was their error. I believe ALPA LUAL and ALPA LCAL were given autonomy to each distribute retro by a methodology of their choosing. One or both of them screwed it up.

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Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1960525)

Who says they screwed it up? The lawsuit hasn't been lost. It's just still in the courts therefore the 5% holdback.

It's not the only lawsuit out there. There are still some goofballs giving away their money to lawyers and taking money out of the ALPA coffers arguing against the SLI. It's just the American way apparently. If you don't like the outcome of something you agreed to, sue. Lawyers love it.

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 1960558)

Who says they screwed it up?

Good point.

So who pays the layers when it is all settled. Assuming the ones suing loose, do the legal costs come out of the 5% to be distributed?

I know is some cases, the looser can be ordered to pay legal fees.

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Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1960600)

Somebody hold back 5% to get the man a grammar check!

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Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1960600)

So who pays the lawyers when it is all settled? Assuming the ones suing lose, do the legal costs come out of the 5% to be distributed?

I know in some cases, the looser can be ordered to pay legal fees.

edited for everything. One of these days I will figure out how to type on a phone, instead of voice typing.

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Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1959194)

Lastly, you should know that the Company, not ALPA, maintains these holdback funds for future distribution, without accrual of interest. The Company has demanded that this holdback be maintained because it is also a defendant in the lawsuits.

That's all just a bunch of "gobbeley-gook"

ALPA is acting as our employer in this matter. You can't say "NOT ALPA", when it's ALPA that is telling the company to keep the money.

This is like saying.........these aren't the droids you are looking for. When in fact these are the droids we are looking for, and ALPA is holding key to the lock box and the company is holding the lock box.

The company and ALPA wouldn't be co-defendents in the lawsuits if it weren't for the illegal actions of Jay Pierce, Lee Moak, Jackson Martin, Tom Stiavala, Jeff Simizek, Fred Abbot. All ALPA had to do was LISTEN to what the military reservists were saying..........All it had to do was listen to its own military liaison committee.

Clearly, the company decided in the last contract what their strategy was going to be regardless of what the advice was of the good and honest people of our military liaison committee. It's really a shame that ALPA took dues money from the guard/reserve pilots who were also ALPA dues paying members in good standing. Their dues moneys should be returned.

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Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1960525)

You are correct.

ALPA L UAL did it right and complied with the law

ALPA L CAL did it wrong, and did not comply with the law.

ALPA National approved them both, however.