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Probe 11-03-2013 06:01 PM

787 Captain numbers
 
So we have 7 shiny new 78's. And after this vacancy bid is trained, we will have 119 Captains. Gee, that is......17 Captains per airplane!!

I could be wrong, but I though we weren't getting any more Sparky's until the 900 comes out late next year.

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CRM114 11-03-2013 06:19 PM

How many of those 119 are scabs? Serious question, I had heard that they were flocking to that jet. Maybe instead of "Sparky", it's the "Scab-Wagon"! :)

With FAR117 requirements, W-pairings, and forecast retirements the company may be hedging their manpower bets. I don't think anyone will be surprised to see management squander any inherent efficiency that the aircraft offers.

jdt30 11-03-2013 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by CRM114 (Post 1512780)
How many of those 119 are scabs? Serious question, I had heard that they were flocking to that jet. Maybe instead of "Sparky", it's the "Scab-Wagon.

Lagos, batteries that run hotter than Sophia Loren, and scabs. The 737 doesn't look so bad now.

Probe 11-03-2013 08:26 PM

Low cost carriers run 5 crews per aircraft. I believe UAL widebodies are 6-7 per aircraft. 17 per aircraft is criminal unless there are 7 more coming in the next 4 months.

Like I said, last I heard we weren't taking any more new ones until the end of next year.

CALFO 11-04-2013 04:14 AM

My guess is that they are getting ahead of the retirement numbers. I would expect the 747 Ord base will be staffed similarly.

sleeves 11-04-2013 04:45 AM

I hope the 747 is staffed fat with Captains along with the 787. This has the effect of moving everyone up. Why is this bad?

teedog 11-04-2013 05:09 AM

It is called the SCAB CAB almost all captains on it are SCABS

LAX Pilot 11-04-2013 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1512828)
Low cost carriers run 5 crews per aircraft. I believe UAL widebodies are 6-7 per aircraft. 17 per aircraft is criminal unless there are 7 more coming in the next 4 months.

Like I said, last I heard we weren't taking any more new ones until the end of next year.

The goal is to fully staff for the 65 787 on order (25 CAL 40 UAL) by the time the fence drops so that no LUAL pilots can bid into the seats.

Toddnel 11-04-2013 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by teedog (Post 1512909)
It is called the SCAB CAB almost all captains on it are SCABS

74.5% currently flying in Nov meet that definition

Toddnel 11-04-2013 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1512828)
Low cost carriers run 5 crews per aircraft. I believe UAL widebodies are 6-7 per aircraft. 17 per aircraft is criminal unless there are 7 more coming in the next 4 months.

Like I said, last I heard we weren't taking any more new ones until the end of next year.

The current staffing for November is at 7.7 Captains per aircraft. I can't speak for the bid.


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