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pilot64golfer 12-30-2013 04:33 PM

Pilot Pay SNAFU
 
As many of you know by now, the company unilaterally made the decision to continue paying L-CAL pilots on December 31, 2013 rather than on January 2, 2014. This infraction to the contractual provision posted above was not discovered until the company posted the L-CAL payroll data on CCS and pilots reported them through the PDR system. This presents a myriad of issues and most of them cannot be reversed.

The 16% contribution to the B-Plan will be made for the 2013 year unless you’ve already reached the 415c limit or have surpassed the 401(a)(17) limit. If you have reached those limits, the 16% will be spilled over into your RHA VEBA. Recall ALPA engaged the company during May 2013 and asked for relief on the 401(a)(17) limits as it pertains to spillage into the RHA VEBA. The company has never responded to our numerous promptings.

Pilots' income in 2013 is already inflated due to the lump sum payments and this adds to the income and increased taxes. It also may trigger the Medicare surcharge.

Under the company’s plan, profit sharing amounts may have an overall impact on all pilots.

Then finally the dues for ALPA are reduced beginning 2014, yet the dues for the L-CAL pilots will be calculated at the higher rate. We will address this issue with ALPA National.

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Just the tax implications of this are going to be a mess. Since the company paid you in 2013 its income earned in 2013. This also means in 2014 you will have one less pay check, so if you are removing a portion towards your 401k you have to take more out.

Plus now ALL of our profit sharing is going to be less (even the LCAL pilots) because the expense being in 2013 means less profit.

APC225 12-30-2013 05:32 PM

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ua...ml#post1549710

ewr756drive 12-30-2013 05:42 PM

Yup...I was shorted over $7/ hr for January.

SpecialTracking 12-30-2013 06:12 PM

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intrepidcv11 12-30-2013 06:19 PM

This can't be happening. According to many on this board the CAL guys are Fred's Golden Scab Children who obtain fortune usually at the expense of others...:rolleyes:

UAL T38 Phlyer 12-30-2013 07:51 PM

Ahh...they all wear the same, Chinese-made (non-union) pilot uniform now, so Jeffy can't tell them apart any more.

flap 12-31-2013 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 1549824)
This can't be happening. According to many on this board the CAL guys are Fred's Golden Scab Children who obtain fortune usually at the expense of others...:rolleyes:

This will increase the 2013 CAL PS payout, as they will have inflated wages compared to UAL.

This is a bad deal all the way around.

APC225 12-31-2013 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by flap (Post 1549962)
This will increase the 2013 CAL PS payout, as they will have inflated wages compared to UAL.

This is a bad deal all the way around.

And will decrease the amount available to pay out to everyone?

WS01 12-31-2013 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by flap (Post 1549962)
This will increase the 2013 CAL PS payout, as they will have inflated wages compared to UAL.

This is a bad deal all the way around.

Since the same thing happened last year, got paid on 12/31/12 vs 1/1/13 doesn't that just even things out??

pilotgolfer 12-31-2013 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by ewr756drive (Post 1549798)
Yup...I was shorted over $7/ hr for January.


The new rates are not loaded into the pay registers yet. I read that the new rates will appear in the pay register after they close out the pay for Jan 15th (the clean up check for December). Your pay check on Feb 1st should be the first one at the new rate.


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