Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1557285)

Meanwhile the 787 is looking more and more like a complete flop if that is what we are waiting on it's time for plan B.

Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1557285)

This management is bound and determined to try and do a 10 gallon job with a 5 gallon bucket. And while it hurts some peoples feelings here the truth of the matter is that the Guppy will never be a 757. The 757 is a lousy trans Atlantic bird and we all knew that. But the megalomaniacs at WHQ don't seem to get the big picture and are unwilling to listen to those on the front lines who know.

If you want to run an international global airline the first thing you need a is decent fleet of international global airplanes. 737's and 757's just ain't going to cut it. Jeffy needs to snap out of his regional airline mentality and he needs to do it RIGHT now or we are doomed.

Meanwhile the 787 is looking more and more like a complete flop if that is what we are waiting on it's time for plan B.

Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1557396)

Apparently and not surprisingly you have a major disconnect in understanding the difference when it comes to knowing what an operational vs business/career issue is. Even at it's very deepest bottom in BK UAL was running a better more reliable operation than what's going on right now.

Lets address some business issues that you mentioned;
Out of bankruptcy, our one to your two BTW, USAIR 1 was during the peak of the good times and consolidation was just a spark on the horizon and it was shot down by government regulators, USAIR 2 was a ploy to get the CAL merger done, and apparently it worked. Even at the lowest pay we were making about the same as you guys due to your total and complete lack of a decent contract. We lost our pension yours was frozen and was going to be taken at some point anyway, just have a look around pensions are going the way of the dinosaur, no need to thank us for your 16% B fund however we did that for you free of charge ...But that's really besides the point. Sorry to bruise your ego here but huge egos are a major part of what's wrong with the current operation. If it's broke FIX IT do not just keep doing the same thing over and over refusing to admit that there is a problem.

Now to the point.

The point is that UAL didn't have these kinds of operational problems before CAL mangament came in and screwed it up. While UAL had it's obvious issues they knew what airplanes to put on what routes and ran a very reliable international and domestic schedule. The operational problems began after El Jeffe Jeffy came in and "fixed" the operation. His operational plan of placing incapable airplanes on un doable routes in the name of frugality isn't working PERIOD even an apologist like you should be able to figure that out. And this procedure of stepping over dollars to pick up dimes is destroying our customer base and in the long run will put this company out of business.

So step back from the crack pipe open your eyes and take an un jaded look at what's really going on. The 756 and the 737's being pushed onto routes they can't handle is a 100% LCAL management problem. As are every other IT and operational failure that has occurred since the boys from Houston have taken the reins. They simply will not listen to their key people on the front lines and they refuse to acknowledge or fix these fixable problems. Jeff and his fanatical group of boot licking yes men are as poor an example of effective leadership as can be had.

Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 1557416)

Nice spin job there...

The LUAL model clearly was a loser and needed to be thrown in the garbage based on results...

Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1557398)

Outsider looking in here, but just curious, what's the latest with Sparky? How has it been doing in day to day ops, still having issues??

Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1557498)

I keep hearing this from clowns like you so lets put some facts to the fiction.

The weight restrictions are on 737-900's LCAL airplanes being flown by L-CAL pilots and managed my LCAL managers this has NOTHING to do with the UAL workforce. The 756's Europe issues are on LCAL airplanes flown primarily by LCAL pilots and manged by LCAL managers this has NOTHING to do with the UAL workforce. The worst bases with the worst turn times and most mishandled bags are EWR and IAH this has NOTHING to do with the UAL workforce. Shares is an LCAL system put in place by LCAL managers this has NOTHING to do with the UAL workforce. The new crew scheduling system (Pheonix is it?) Is an LCAL system put in place by LCAL managers this has NOTHING to do with the UAL workforce. The complete and total mismanagement of crew and airframe resources once again that is an LCAL management issue. Hundreds upon hundreds of 76T F/O's sitting idle while they could all be productive in other fleets, once again complete arrogance from the LCAL side, they are going to let "attrition" take care of a problem that could be solved in year or so with legal and strategic displacements.

The above issues have NOTHING I repeat NOTHING to do with the lack of motivation of any UAL workforce. These are all mismanagement issues on a grand scale. So put the blame where the blame is due my friend. This is a management issue. It has nothing to do with LCAL or LUAL pilots or other "co-workers" and for you to say that it does shows a major lack of thought, knowledge and arrogance.

So in your twisted view are the 787 problems the fault of an unmotivated UAL workforce too? How about the lack of planning in regards to FAR 117? How about Jeffy laying off hundreds of rampers the week before Christmas?