757 and 767 Fleet Composition
01-14-2014, 06:57 AM
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757 and 767 Fleet Composition
I'm trying to learn what the composition of these fleets are from their previous Legacy operators.
APC's United Profile shows
757-300: 21 aircraft
757-200: 128
767-300: 35
767-400: 16
Questions:
1. I'm certain the 757-300s were CAL's, and they are staying.
2. I deduce the 757-200s are a mix of CAL and UAL. Most of the UAL jets are being retired, except for the P.S. jets, which I think is 15 airplanes.
Q: How many 757-200s are CAL?
Q: What will the 757 total be when the fleets are unified?
3. On the 767 side, how many are UAL, and how many are CAL?
4. Are there any plans or rumors about airplanes in the 767 fleet being retired?
5. Is the 767-400 operated as a separate fleet, or is it a differences-airplane for the 757-300 guys?
Knowing that the UAL 757s are being parked (95 airplanes), I'm seeing a pretty small total fleet as the end result. (89 airplanes, excluding the 767-400 [16 airframes]).
I'm just trying to figure out which fleet would make the most sense for me when I get off mil-leave.
Your insight and wisdom is appreciated.
APC's United Profile shows
757-300: 21 aircraft
757-200: 128
767-300: 35
767-400: 16
Questions:
1. I'm certain the 757-300s were CAL's, and they are staying.
2. I deduce the 757-200s are a mix of CAL and UAL. Most of the UAL jets are being retired, except for the P.S. jets, which I think is 15 airplanes.
Q: How many 757-200s are CAL?
Q: What will the 757 total be when the fleets are unified?
3. On the 767 side, how many are UAL, and how many are CAL?
4. Are there any plans or rumors about airplanes in the 767 fleet being retired?
5. Is the 767-400 operated as a separate fleet, or is it a differences-airplane for the 757-300 guys?
Knowing that the UAL 757s are being parked (95 airplanes), I'm seeing a pretty small total fleet as the end result. (89 airplanes, excluding the 767-400 [16 airframes]).
I'm just trying to figure out which fleet would make the most sense for me when I get off mil-leave.
Your insight and wisdom is appreciated.
01-14-2014, 10:10 AM
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Here are two websites that have a ridiculous amount of fleet info:
https://sites.google.com/site/united...fleet-tracking
United Fleet (UA) - FlyerGuide Wiki
https://sites.google.com/site/united...fleet-tracking
United Fleet (UA) - FlyerGuide Wiki
01-14-2014, 10:40 AM
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Note how all the UA tail numbers are N XXXX UA and mostly in sequential order from delivery. Very easy to know what type of aircraft it is and how its provisioned instead of just some random N numbers...
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01-14-2014, 11:10 AM
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Phlyer,
I live in Goodyear AZ & the Goodyear Municipal Airport is a long term parking/refurb facility for airlines looking to dispose of excess equipment. I saw two UAL 767s in the new livery there in October. A guy I talked to said they were being sold.
I live in Goodyear AZ & the Goodyear Municipal Airport is a long term parking/refurb facility for airlines looking to dispose of excess equipment. I saw two UAL 767s in the new livery there in October. A guy I talked to said they were being sold.
01-14-2014, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats Extend
Note how all the UA tail numbers are N XXXX UA and mostly in sequential order from delivery. Very easy to know what type of aircraft it is and how its provisioned instead of just some random N numbers...
(Hint: the last three digits are the nose number...and yes, they are in sequential order; i.e. N12322 essentially would translate as N322UA)
01-14-2014, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
FWIW, I the ex-CAL numbering is not quite as random as you think it is....there actually is a system.
(Hint: the last three digits are the nose number...and yes, they are in sequential order; i.e. N12322 essentially would translate as N322UA)
(Hint: the last three digits are the nose number...and yes, they are in sequential order; i.e. N12322 essentially would translate as N322UA)
Thanks
01-14-2014, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats Extend
And the type would be coded as? Ex. 737, 787 etc...
Thanks
Thanks
More than you ever wanted to know about the post-merger fleet:
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
01-14-2014, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Essentially the same as it would at UA. The first digit of the last three digits helps identify the sub fleet.
More than you ever wanted to know about the post-merger fleet:
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
More than you ever wanted to know about the post-merger fleet:
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
Ok thanks. I always like to figure out what type of aircraft is around when I pull up a flight on acars...
01-14-2014, 12:57 PM
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757
-300 were all cal
-200 were a mix, in the end only the ual PS are staying (15 i think) and all the cal 200
767
Cal 200 are gone
All 400 were cal, all staying
All 300 were ual, i think 14 staying.
76 400 are operated in the same fleet as the 75. Could do one domestic leg on the 764 followed by a 752 leg.
Although 764 trips go senior because of pay difference.
-300 were all cal
-200 were a mix, in the end only the ual PS are staying (15 i think) and all the cal 200
767
Cal 200 are gone
All 400 were cal, all staying
All 300 were ual, i think 14 staying.
76 400 are operated in the same fleet as the 75. Could do one domestic leg on the 764 followed by a 752 leg.
Although 764 trips go senior because of pay difference.
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