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Toddnel 02-19-2014 08:16 AM

Alpa pac
 
The 2013 numbers aren't out yet but looking at the 2012 Honor Roll, I'm proud to say that both sides (still separated in 2012) are strong in the ALPA PAC.

For those who haven't joined, I implore you to consider joining. Now more than ever, our profession is under attack from foreign entities who are unwilling to compete on a fair playing field. For those who are ticked off at ALPA, try and see beyond today as all the other pilots unions look for ALPA to take the lead on governmental affairs.

It's less than most pilots monthly coffee bill to join at the highest level and it's done through dues check off.

krudawg 02-19-2014 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Toddnel (Post 1585040)
The 2013 numbers aren't out yet but looking at the 2012 Honor Roll, I'm proud to say that both sides (still separated in 2012) are strong in the ALPA PAC.

For those who haven't joined, I implore you to consider joining. Now more than ever, our profession is under attack from foreign entities who are unwilling to compete on a fair playing field. For those who are ticked off at ALPA, try and see beyond today as all the other pilots unions look for ALPA to take the lead on governmental affairs.

It's less than most pilots monthly coffee bill to join at the highest level and it's done through dues check off.

Toddnel, would you mind posting the names and party of all who received ALPAC dollars. Last time I checked, the majority of the dollars went to Democrats. I bring this up because I want to point something out. We are now in a battle to save our jobs and the first skirmish is with the re-flagged Norway Airline trying to operate in this country which effectively will be "the nose of the camel in the tent" of cabotage. We have a Democrat controlled Senate and White house and we are fighting this intrusion. Why are we now trying to defend out jobs to a government that was elected with ALPA-PAC money and is now considering to allow this??

CALFO 02-19-2014 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1585329)
Toddnel, would you mind posting the names and party of all who received ALPAC dollars. Last time I checked, the majority of the dollars went to Democrats. I bring this up because I want to point something out. We are now in a battle to save our jobs and the first skirmish is with the re-flagged Norway Airline trying to operate in this country which effectively will be "the nose of the camel in the tent" of cabotage. We have a Democrat controlled Senate and White house and we are fighting this intrusion. Why are we now trying to defend out jobs to a government that was elected with ALPA-PAC money and is now considering to allow this??

The list of politicians that received PAC monies is located on the Alpa PAC website. Mostly dems, but a lot of republicans too. The PAC doesn't contribute to either party, it contributes to specific candidates. Remember that the pac's donation are only a small fraction of the money they receive. They are probably also getting money from groups with competing interests. Believe it or not, not every American cares about our well being. Their are plenty of other interests ( aircraft manufacturers, tour companies, banks, etc) that stand to gain from airlines such as Norwegian.

krudawg 02-19-2014 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1585381)
The list of politicians that received PAC monies is located on the Alpa PAC website. Mostly dems, but a lot of republicans too. The PAC doesn't contribute to either party, it contributes to specific candidates. Remember that the pac's donation are only a small fraction of the money they receive. They are probably also getting money from groups with competing interests. Believe it or not, not every American cares about our well being. Their are plenty of other interests ( aircraft manufacturers, tour companies, banks, etc) that stand to gain from airlines such as Norwegian.

You are correct about nobody caring about Airline Pilots because we are targets to any group professing income redistribution. Our enemy can come from any party and since the Democrats are pulling the strings now I blame them for failing to protect Labor against Cabotage.

The Juice 02-19-2014 04:38 PM

Removed.......

Toddnel 02-19-2014 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1585446)
You are correct about nobody caring about Airline Pilots because we are targets to any group professing income redistribution. Our enemy can come from any party and since the Democrats are pulling the strings now I blame them for failing to protect Labor against Cabotage.

It doesn't matter what side you're on because right now it's the total ineffectiveness of Congress that's killing us. This stalemate that they have created by fighting each other at all cost has cost us all dearly. The ALPA PAC is the only organization I agree with right now as they will support whoever supports us.

In case you haven't figured it out, we aren't rich enough to benefit from being Republican and we are too rich to be a Democrat. Both parties want to take our money but neither wants to benefit our demographic. Until there is a third, moderate party we are screwed, might as well try and save our careers.

krudawg 02-19-2014 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Toddnel (Post 1585486)
It doesn't matter what side you're on because right now it's the total ineffectiveness of Congress that's killing us. This stalemate that they have created by fighting each other at all cost has cost us all dearly. The ALPA PAC is the only organization I agree with right now as they will support whoever supports us.

In case you haven't figured it out, we aren't rich enough to benefit from being Republican and we are too rich to be a Democrat. Both parties want to take our money but neither wants to benefit our demographic. Until there is a third, moderate party we are screwed, might as well try and save our careers.

Now that Sir is something we agree on

sleeves 02-19-2014 06:55 PM

Gave $300 last year, gonna up it to $500 this year.

Toddnel 02-19-2014 08:55 PM

13% of ALPA members have last year, kinda pathetic. I am glad to say both our groups were high in the list of givers before the merger and will be probably the largest together.

CousinEddie 02-20-2014 04:02 AM

Todd and ALPA are correct on this one. The threat from abroad has become to great to ignore. The CEO of NAS flat out said that putting thousands of US airline employees out of work was an acceptable consequence for in turn providing the marketplace with LCC long haul via their back door schemes. Take a small chunk of your profit sharing check and sign up for ALPA PAC.

I posted this earlier:


$150 Million Gift From Abu Dhabi to Transform National Children's Hospital

United Arab Emirates volunteers help Tuscaloosa rebuild - 19 Action News|Cleveland, OH|News, Weather, Sports

United Arab Emirates helps Joplin ?think big? in rebuilding tornado-scarred schools - The Washington Post

United Arab Emirates gives $5M to Joplin hospital | Fox News

Machester City, UAE partner with Pritzkers for new Logan Park soccer field - Chicago Sun-Times

and finally.......the first of many more objectives achieved:

US Customs passenger facility opens in UAE - Yahoo Finance


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