A lot of them were and most of those positions were only available to Friends of Fred, especially before age 60 changed and it was the replacement back-door retirement plan that the DC-10 SO seat used to be.

Obviously some good guys got swept up in the delousing of the training center but it was long overdue.

Delta is staffed the same way. Lots of double pay.

Until something really costs them, they will continue to operate short staffed. There are plenty willing to pick up open time, or volunteer for Senior man pay. They would rather pay overtime and add pay than properly staff. It's a matter of whatever is the lesser evil. Unfortunately when they fall flat on their faces the company starts disregarding the contract to put out their fires.

How does that saying go?....Lack of planning of your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

Yeah we get the point that you keep restating. We get it. Now do you get the negative manpower implications that LeeMat was alluding to? How did you get 244 hours pay in two months while only flying 143?

If you had said NO to all those sweet deals that got you 244 for 143 ... how many trips would they have had to cancel if no one else picked up those sweet deals either?

Trips cancelled because we stop doing the Company favors for $$, forces the Company to properely man the airline. Trips not cancelled because *****mongers keep covering the Company's a$$, allows the Company to staff at a lower level. Staffing at a lower level means LESS 400 CAP, LESS 777 CAP, LESS 767 CAP. For all those CAP positions the Company doesn't staff for ... means F/O's don't get to upgrade to the left seat or transition to a higher piece of equipment.

I'm retiring in my current left seat but you guys keep on helping out the Company staff a lower rate. The Company loves you for it! You like the money but I don't want to hear about stagnation ... I don't want to hear about being on reserve forever ... and I don't want to hear about being a sixteen year F/O. If you want a sympathetic ear ... work your 85 hours, take home your 85 hours pay, and let Company properly staff the airline and stop relying on *****mongers.

If we had a hard AND soft pay cap at 90 hours per month, those 244 hours you were paid would have menat a minimum of and additional 1.7 pilots in addition to you. (244 / 90 = 2.7) The next time you make more than 90 hours, figure out how many jobs you helped the Company avoid hiring and how many higher paying postions ahead of you that you will never get to upgrade into!

Carry on!

Did you vote for the current contract?

Congrats at that rate you will be in that right seat for a long time. Enjoy

I've seen you post this several times but I've never seen you post your reason for not liking the contract. If you were a 777 CAP, I don't see anything you lost but many did benefit.

I've posted my reasons many times and don't have time to do it again. By the way hopesales how would you have seen me post this many times if you joined 1-14-2014 unless you have been here using other names. By the way if you are looking for things lost, how about 30 cents on the dollar for back pay for starters, some vacation days. There you got me started.

In some self-serving way, I'm sure you'll always think the CBA was a bad deal for you. It wasn't all about you or me for that matter. It was about the collective. You would be in far worst shape had the CBA not passed. For starters, it lead to the SLI and gave much needed money to the bottom of the list and stopped the seat theft that was in full swing. Have you bothered to talk to any F/A's lately. All I can say is the CBA was a home run for "ALL UNITED PILOTS". If the negotiations had gone on much longer, your 30 cents and vacation days would have been chump change compared to the loss as a result of the delay.
"By the way" - really?

I really don't care what you think, but no I don't just think of me when it comes to a CBA. Yes I have talked to F/A on all my trips. You can call it a home run all you want as that is your opinion, however there are plenty of United pilots that disagree with you, but hey you knew that already. My last response to you is best of luck next time.