Pilot Pay - Again
 

I recently returned to mother United and am loving the changes. :roll eyes:

Can anyone share where I can find how to find the company's math that they use to arrive at the amount on the pay advice? I found the check stub in the My Info section, but how they arrive at that number is beyond me.

Where are the credit time calculations?
Where are the per diem calculations?
Where is the accounting for approved expenses (aside from usource email)?
Etc....


I also remember that for pay calculations, that for a pay month, pilots receive 35 hours on the first check, and the rest of the credit time on the second check. Is that right?

I've never seen the company "executing on excellence and working together" to this magnitude before. I'm hoping we get adult supervision soon.

Did you look at the "Pay Register" in CCS (in "other"sub-menu.) Type in the month and year you want to look at (XX14). Its multiple pages; pages 2+ practically shows you how much you earned in each flight/day you worked. Click (with the mouse) the F8/F7 to scroll between pages.

Just a quick comment. I am a reserve Captain and "never had a problem with my paycheck" or at least I thought. I was off for nearly 3 months recovering from surgery and had a lot of time on my hands so I decided to look back on my PAY ADVICE stubs. I knew I should be receiving 73 hours MPG but as I started with Jan 2014 pay period I noticed my Hours for the month were 68, Feb-68.5 and March - 67 hours. Huh???? I call the pay desk and was told to "file a pay claim on CCS". Well, I had to figure out how to do it but once I filed a claim I was paid very quickly.

Thanks! That's what I was looking for. It's amazing what they don't teach you in Redoc.

Just to make sure I understand correctly, the pay claim shows the 3 buckets: LV, MPG, and PTC. Pilots are paid the highest value of the three, plus any additional pay (add, pay etc.). Right? The first check is a straight 35 hours x hourly rate. That amount is deducted from the highest of the three buckets described above and subject to deductions. The second check is total pay - 35 hours.

As for deductions: The percentage deductions like 401k, tax, and union dues are easy to calculate. What's not clear are the benefit deductions; are the entire monthly copays for healthcare, dental, and insurance taken from the the first check? Or, are the benefits payments split between the 2 pay period checks?

(I realize this should be common knowledge, but it's not being presented, and as far as I can tell documented anywhere. God help the new hires.)

I'm not seeing per diem or expenses, any idea where to find that?

Thanks again.

Per diem is on the 16th check...it is extremely difficult to decipher from looking at the page 2/3, etc of pay register. You can see the forcasted amount of perdiem on page one of the pay register on left side. As far as looking to see start and stop times for the per diem while you are on the road or flying internationally,I haven't cracked that nut yet.


Expenses are handled outside of the payroll process...you will not see any info on pay stub.

Healthcare and dental and LTD come out of both checks equally...but Life Insurance only comes out of 16th check.

If someone picks up a trip and that trip is subsequently bought for IOE, can one pick up another trip to add on top of the line value, or would you just get the greater of the 2?

Thanks guys, is the above PD off of page one of the register, how per diem is forecast? Those are not the numbers I wanted to see if so.

Is Per Diem paid differently in training?

Everyone I ask at TK says that there is NO requirement to file an expense report for per diem, what say the forum?

Correct, no requirement to file expenses but certainly a requirement to watch your pay registrar.

My experience has been, per diem is added during the month if you're flying a trip and on the last day of the month (maybe the first day of the next month) if it's for training.

If you've flown a trip in June and there's no per diem reflected, I would file a pay claim.

I'm in the "training per diem" boat ... Replies to my pay claim - it'll be added sometime around the end of the month (can't remember the exact response, but that was the jist)
Same deal happened in May for training. I filed the claim around June 2/3 ... Per diem showed on pay registrar within hours.

Yes...per diem from training comes from a different cubicle behind the black curtain. It wil appear sometime between the 1st of the month and when payroll closes out the previous month around the 8th.

My experience has been...if you are a line holder and fly your line as published, it will be 100% correct. If you have cancellations or swaps, check your pay register before they close out the month. It was usually easy to catch mistakes and have them fixed.

Training throws a wrench in the works. They seem to be ignoring some aspect of the contract so you gotta watch like a hawk. Be vigilant on the period of time between completing training and starting IOE...especially when it drags on beyond the days they block for IOE.

Welcome back.

Any one know the answer to this? Somehow I think it has to be greater than the value of the original trip since your Line value drops....once the original trip is removed.

Double dipping is allowed. The FBO pay protects you for the trip bought for IOE. You have no obligation to the company to be available. If you choose to pick up something on those days, you are paid straight time for the extra flying on top of the original trip.

This makes me think its actually the combined value:

3-D-4 Unless otherwise stated, provisions that entitle a Pilot to Add Pay are discrete and independent events.

Meaning, each trip adds to the "add pay" independent of anything else

Anyone want to be the guinea pig?

Thanks. Would this apply even if the IOE trip was picked up instead of being part of the original line value?

From Indiana Jones:

"Asps.............very dangerous..............you go first"

Once you pick it up, your LineValue goes up accordingly.

wouldn't you want your PTC to go up??? Not line Value since it went down from the missing trip.

For discussion's sake:

Let's say July is an 80 hour line. SO...

LV=80
MPG=72
PTC=80

after a 20 hour trip drops (bought for IOE)

LV=60
MPG=72
PTC=80

So the question is....does an additional flight assignment go on top of PTC....or LV?

I don't believe the Line value would decrease in an FBO situation. PTC deals with cancellations and reassignments. I would have to research that, though. But I am 100% positive that anything you pick up is paid above what you were pay protected for.....how the payroll people account for it with their codes is a different story.

^^^^ NOT true!!!

Old contract! Rule of thumb for new contract...If FBO... ONLY fly on days off to guarantee pay. Went through this last month, FBO'd and was told if I picked up a "new" trip is was pay protected (only paid greater of 2 trips). So, I enjoyed my new days off and picked up another trip on days off...done...paid for both.

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Does it show up anywhere? Like the pay register for example. TIA!

Should show up in pay register. Thing to remember...3 pay metrics, you are paid highest of the three. PTC is effectively your line award...block is what you fly (obviously).
I order to get max pay with FBO..you need to increase PTC bank. The easiest way to do that is fly (on your days OFF) for max time credit.

Thanks ewr, is there a separate line item to show it individually?

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Just a quick question. I'm still out and maybe returning soon. I was wondering about insurance life and disability that the company ALPA offers. Is there somewhere i can read about the policies costs etc.

I was working for another company and found out too late and too my cost their disability insurance does not cover any injuries at work, as they should be covered by workers comp. But WC does not pay anywhere close to what we make. So I will be needing something to make up any difference no matter the reason I can't work.

Also a lot of policies only pay your min guarantee each month, so if you work a lot more and get international per diem it won't pay that loss either.

Just want to educate myself while i have the time.

Thanks.